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Written by Wenger Boy on Monday, 04 July 2011 15:31

First off let me issue my traditional ‘good day’ to all you Goonerists out there working tirelessly to spread the red and white message across the soccersphere and beyond.

These are indeed difficult times for fans of our beloved club. Murmured exits appear to inch closer to reality each day as arrivals seem to run full steam in the opposite direction, although if we are honest with ourselves this perception is as much down to our own increasingly pessimistic outlook as anything else.

Rumours of new signings are inevitably kept distant and unreal by the inescapable fear that they may never materialise but let it also not escape you that this is the same fear which renders exit talk so believable. If you were to remove this fear and look at the situation objectively you would see that there is as much falsehood in stories about those supposed to be leaving as those supposed to be arriving. 

For all the transfer talk this summer we are yet to see a completely confirmed transfer either way, bar young Carl Jenkinson*, and even that was all but sealed before the window opened.

The fact that after weeks of speculation both ways we find Clichy having a medical before Gervinho illustrates either one or both of two points: a) that Arsenal are taking a long time to conclude their business and/or b) that reports have been exaggerated and fabricated at various stages in order to generate greater interest.

My guess is there is a smattering of a) and just one hell of a lot of b) involved in that particular phenomenon.

One player whose exit is far from confirmed is young Samir of Nasrille and his actions have, as we all know, riled up a fair portion of the Arsenal fan base. But while most are labelling him greedy and disloyal there have been a number of intelligent voices arguing that being a footballer is a job like any other, and seen from that perspective his actions are, at the very least, understandable.

Pete over at The Beautiful Groan says:

“Is he holding the club to ransom? In a way, yes. But he isn’t asking for that level of salary without logic, and probably feels quite justified in his request…Plenty of people who are criticising him would change jobs in an instant if a far greater salary was offered, and while I understand that the scale of money is very different, there is a still a potentially vast salary gap at stake here. It matters.”

This argument then quickly moves onto the question of loyalty, and whether we are truly justified in expecting it from those who come to our club:

“I feel sometimes that we, as fans, miss this point entirely. As Arsenal fans, we cannot understand why anyone would leave the club, but these players are not fans, and even as representatives of the club they do not necessarily have it in their hearts. Imagine if you played for Bayer Leverkusen, and Inter came in with a big money offer for you. Top sides both, and as fans of neither you’d probably take quite a rational approach to the decision. Allow Nasri, and others, the same courtesy.”

Now taken through this light it is easy for me to make sense of Nasri’s actions. He wants a pay rise, so do I. If he finds a better job offer elsewhere he’s happy to leave, so I am I.

So far so good.

The problem is that the comparison hinges on the belief that being footballer is truly similar enough to being a doctor, journalist, banker or baker to lend itself to direct comparison and I’m not confident that this is the case, for a number of reasons.

Are fans right to expect a higher level of loyalty than that shown by players such as Nasri? Possibly not, but there are definitely arguments in favour of that sentiment.

In almost no profession other than sport does moving from one company to another so directly affect the fortunes of your previous employer. Two advertising firms can succeed simultaneously but if Nasri were to achieve success at another Premier League club it would guarantee at least some failure for Arsenal. In moving to a rival he would basically be admitting that he was content to see Arsenal fail which, given the time and money invested in him by the club and the support he has received from fans and his team mates, could easily be perceived as an insult. 

This is especially true with regards to player development. Nasri might not be as coveted as he is now if he had signed for someone else from Marseille and it is only because he has had the chance to improve and subsequently shine at a club like Arsenal that he has become such a household name across the globe. That is certainly something he would do well to remember.

Also, Nasri may not be a fan of the club but for the time he has been here his aims on the pitch have been one and the same as those in the stands. It may be said the he owes nothing to the supporters but without fan support football as a multi-million pound industry would not survive, and while ticket receipts may not directly pay his wage you can guarantee that he would not be requesting £110,000-a-week if he was playing to an empty stadium every Saturday. 

Whatever you may think you cannot deny that players exist to serve fans and not the other way around. Again it was the club’s fan base as well as the club’s development that ensured Nasri achieved global recognition. Shalke may have progressed further than us in the Champion’s League last year but still most football fans across the world would be able to name more Arsenal players than Shalke players and that is testament to our popularity as a club.

Therefore I feel the player/fan relationship must in some way distort the simple employee/employer relationship that some are suggesting Nasri has with the club. How both of these relationships interplay is however somewhat complex and certainly open to much discussion but I can’t help feeling you would be missing something in taking such an uncomplicated stance on their employment at the club. 

The truth of the matter probably lies somewhere in the middle of both sides of the argument but the issue becomes clouded by the all the badge-kissing and public displays of emotion and support. When player X praises the club and its fans in multiple interviews and can be seen hugging teammates and fighting for the club week-in week-out it is hard not to develop an image of them as more than just employees.  

If you didn’t want to appear disloyal upon leaving then why go out of your way to give the impression of loyalty throughout your time at the club? 

Again this is where I feel the simplistic employee/employer view of things breaks down a little and the deeper truth shines through. For sure, the exact nature of this truth is hard to discern but that doesn’t mean it should be ignored - by either party in the debate.

I personally have to hold my hand up and admit to an inconsistency in my responses throughout the saga. Trying to compute all of the various angles is a near impossible task and when your natural reaction as a fan is to feel hurt then your public response is likely to be ire and frustration regardless of how justified or misplaced that might be.

I don’t expect everyone to agree on this matter any time soon but I do urge those who hold conflicting views to at least consider the opposing perspective because there are merits to both, and only through rational consideration can we hope to obtain any reasonable and measured perspective on this very serious and highly divisive issue. 

Thanks,

WB

@WengerBoy1

*Clichy may have been sold by the time this piece is published.

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Comments (16)

  • rellends  - player loyalty
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    no. footballers, with a few exceptions, are mercernaries. what we do expect though is the biggest club in one of the biggest capital cities in the world, to show a modicum of ambition. we don't show any whatsoever and thus our best players all want to leave. we are a fucking joke.
  • daniel Marino  - Who are you to expect lolality
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    Master,

    Who are you to expect lolality? I am a fun like you but when Arsen and Mr Gazidis did not want to show a drive to win but a drive for profit, why are we to expect loyality.

    I notified Arsenal that this is a matter of keeping the image upright in my two letters back in May and June, did not bother them. It happened exactly as I said read my blog all over Arsenal writings.

    Expect the worst. If you love the fun, join me. I am planning to boycot the first home much for funs not to attend. Let we make it an empty stadium.

    Then we all get respect, funs and players. It is a disrespect for Cesc and Nasri, that Arsen still see them as kids and not aiming to spend like 30 million to make them believe they will go for a silver ware. No instead he is buying unknown players like Shamakh and selling famous starlets of Arsenal.
  • James
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    Let's stop being naive. Supporters accusing footballers of being mercenaries are hypocrites. If they were in the same position they'd do exactly the same - because humans are the same wherever they're from. So no, loyalty should not be expected.

    In the old days, when players were comparatively badly paid but knew where their bread was buttered it was easier to pledge an allegiance, but had they been offered what players are offered today they'd all behave in exactly the same way.
  • MeanLean
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    Nice read WB as usual. Sitting on the 205 bus through a traffic jammed Kings Cross, I read your article properly and it got me in deep thought about football through supporters eyes and through that of a football player.

    It is indeed completely different and the long time has gone on and the more money poured into the game, the less emotional it must become to these footballers.

    As a passionate Arsenal fan I watch and idolise these players. It won't be long before some are half my age and naturally I expect them to have the same feelings as I do but time has moved on from that.

    Players rarely play for a team for the love of it, well at least not only for the love of it. Now I think about it, it has become crystal clear.

    I worked for an IT company which trained me up and sent me on countless courses to develop my skills. When I got what I wanted, I didn't run around the office kissing my white collared shirt, I handed in my notice and jumped ship to company that would stuff more notes in my pocket. It was not my company, I was doing them a favour by being there and working hard on a daily basis. I guess players these days must feel the same, if not exactly then maybe not that far from that.

    The thing is, Nasri knows he has developed so much under Wenger and has the freedom to work as he likes to. There is plenty more courses to go on and training sessions to complete. I suppose it depends if he wants that bigger pay packet or if he wants to develop his knowledge further.
  • Anonymous
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    how about fan loyalty? no ambition? that's a joke right, the team collapsed after a big shock and huge fan backlash but from the start point last season Arsenal were predicted to finish 5th or even 6th by many yet fought for 4 trophies for a long time final of CC lost to winners of CL and semi finalists of FA how the league ended was a dissapointment but if you think Arsenal will show that kind of form again like the last 3 months of last season you are wrong it was relegation form from a champions league team thats a one off
  • gaya
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    wenger boy,
    imagine how the Marseille fans felt when nasri left. His loyalty to his boyhood club may also have been questioned. Why then should we think he should consider that now.
    Another think that bugs me is how come none of Wenger's buys have hung their boots with Arsenal?
  • andy
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    speaking of loyalty, what about the 'blind' loyalty Wenger showed to his players. Loyalty only gets you so far, before self-interest takes over (i.e Ashley Cole, Campbell, etc). I've found the trend amongst footballer is finding the balance between money and trophies. But ultimately trophies is a driving factor...unless you offer players ridiculous money (City).
    At Arsenal we have (had) players who have money but want trophies/succes and are now looking to move. We are also stuck with players who are paid too much, who are unlikely to play for another top team, and we will find it difficult to off-load them.

    Shame on Wenger for poor business model. Shame on Wenger for showing 'blind' loyalty to under performing players. When out 'stars' leave, Arsenal will be left with very average players. But then again losing Cesc, Nasari ,will give Wenger a chance to change formation, and move away from 4-2-3-1
  • young  - loyalty?By decree?
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    The club asks for top dollar on season tickets,instead of making better deals and better marketing. The directors and ex-directors harvested handsome profits so far on the back of beautiful football. But star players who contribute towards the beautiful football are deemed greedy and loyal fans were told to stop complaining and just pay up. There seems to be something very one way here to demand high moral ground. Must be a different universe.
  • JoeB  - Who are you to expect loyalty
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    Where's the loyalty to the board, Wenger, Denilson, Diaby, Almunia, Rosicky, Bendtner, Clichy, Fabianski, Gibbs, and every other figure so called Arsenal fans whine and moan about like toddlers throwing a tantrum? Who'd want to stay at a club with fans who don't back their players and board through the bad times?

    Disloyal fans = disloyal players.

    Oh, and if you left a family firm to join a big corporation that worked in the same market and aggressively pushed that firm out of business there might be loyalty issues. A family that screamed and shouted at every f*** up? Think about it next time you boo your own players.
  • Wenger Boy
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    Everyone is asking who I am to expect loyalty when the very aim of the article is to ask if we are right to expect it, not to say that we are.

    It's an unanswered question in my book. There are good arguments for both sides.
  • irish gooner
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    things arent looking good at the moment,,wenger is asleep at the wheel,,,2 billionaires own us now and we still cant afford to pay a player 110 grand a week,,didnt sol earn that 11 years ago? we are worse off now than when arsene took over,,its horrible,,fuck sake what is going on,where has my arsenal gone? disillusionment is the only word that describes my mood today,,,,is it to late to tear down the emirates and move back HOME? :(
  • JoeB
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    The pessimistic outlook is a self fulfilling prophecy. If we keep calling for the head of the manager and certain players, the rest of the team are going to start thinking "I'm next". If fans keep treating the players like that then we're not right to expect them to be loyal.
  • Dan  - Loyalty my arse
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    Loyalty? Ask Robert Pires Arsenal legend.He didnt as for more money just a 2 year contract at the age of 32.We gave he a one year deal.Then we signed Silvestre who was 32 and we gave him a 2 year deal.Thats loyalty the Arsenal way
  • TL Gooner  - Badge Kissing
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    Good article and some points raised. You hinted at the badge kissing and I must say this changes everything. Samir Nasri wheeled away from one of his pen's at tottenham in the carling cup earlier in the season, kissing the badge and that says to fans 'i love this club' or 'i have special affection for it' and when, a few months later, he is considering leaving it does leave a sense of betrayal.

    I would rather him be honest and not kiss the badge if he doesn't have that special affection for it. If I played for Bolton, for example, and scored a goal I wouldn't kiss the badge, unless I'd developed a special affection for the club and it's fans and planned on staying for a long time (unless Arsenal tried to sign me!) so I think this creates a different relationship with the clubs fans and implies loyalty, which he isn't showing at the moment.
  • jgunz  - we are cheap.(pay him the market rate and fuckthe
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    no matter what we try to Blame the players for, the fact remains that our cheapness is why players are leaving, why are we prepared to make barca pay 50million for a player when we refuse to pay 35 million for any player.
    players are human and want to be paid the market rate for what they are worth ashley young is not as good as nasri so why is nasri not allowed to get 100 grand a week.
    for me this is wengers last season, we have had great years but he is afraid to manage big players so he sells them and refuses to buy any classy player who is rated at 20million plus.
    now this may be down to ristrctions fro the board but he needs tell them listen i want a benzema or sergio aguero(for exmple) i know that they cost 25 and 40 million respectivley but i belive they can take us to the next level, because you can be sure when a new manager comes in and if wenger fails again this season, he will want top top players and end up getting all the glory that should have been wengers all because he didnt have the backbone to force these transfers through.
    it will be a shame if nasri leaves but wenger will have only himself to blame.
    in short i hope to see fabregas, almunia,denilson,and squilaci leave this summer.
    and bring in benzema, samba,swartzer,hangerland,gerviniho,ricky Alvarez, and keep nasri(pay him the market rate and fuckthe wage structure). :lol:

    here's hoping we win something this season as i dont want to see wenger go but falure to capture a trophy this season will see a full scale revolt.
    on the bright side we may get pep guardiola as it would enhance his rep considerably if he can turn this bunch of bottle jobs into winners.
  • jgunz
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    Loyalty? Ask Robert Pires Arsenal legend.He didnt as for more money just a 2 year contract at the age of 32.We gave he a one year deal.Then we signed Silvestre who was 32 and we gave him a 2 year deal.Thats loyalty the Arsenal way

    good point

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