Written by Mean Lean on Monday, 01 August 2011 17:57

As Emirates cup tournaments go, this one wasn't the best for Arsenal. It certainly wouldn't be one that Carlsberg would want to own up to sponsoring that's for sure. A few of our recent flaws were evident over the last few days. I am just thankful that we didn't concede from a set piece as I do not think that I could handle even louder groans.

The game on Saturday was certainly more enjoyable over the two days, our first half football was very good, direct with quick combination passing. Frimpong looks very good for his age, he is very tenacious and is perfectly suited for a pressing game. While he is not Jack Wilshere under pressure with the ball at his feet, he is only 19 and will improve that side of his game. It was nice to see Frimpong and Wilshere play again together for the first time since last pre season. Those two have been playing together since the age of nine and I can see them forging a wonderful partnership in the future for this great club.

Gervinho continued to shine against Boca, one run down the right when he touched it past the full back on one side and ran around him on the other got the crowd off their feet. It was Gervinho who made the assist for the first goal, played down the left his early cross with his weaker side allowed Van Persie who spun off into space to slide the ball home.

Aaron Ramsey's goal just after the break was typical Ramsey. While some Arsenal players are reluctant to pull the trigger, Ramsey certainly isn't. Vela's run was skilful and direct while Ramsey's strike was struck with venom.

Vermaelen and Koscielny were faultless in the first half and it remains a partnership that I have every bit of faith and confidence in. Wenger made a number of second half changes which obviously disrupted the team in almost every aspect.

Squillaci was at fault for the first goal while Djourou could not get enough on the ball to prevent the second goal. While losing a lead was a familiar feeling it is worth noting that changing your central defensive partnership as well as plenty more outfield players will not happen once the league starts.

Sunday's game against the New York red bulls was a totally different type of game. I found it interesting to see that we were very close to full strength apart from a few first teamers. Theo Walcott is injured, Cesc Fabregas is waiting for his move to Barcelona to happen but why wasn't Samir Nasri included in what should have been our strongest available team?

Szczesny

Sagna Koscielny Vermaelen Gibbs

Song Wilshere

Ramsey

Rosicky Van Persie Gervinho

If Arsene was trying to gel his team together before the season kicks off then why wasn't Nasri in the team ahead of Rosicky? Why didn't Rosicky start on Saturday and Nasri saved until Sunday?

I don't know if that was an indication from the manager about his intentions for the new season. I guess you could argue that Arshavin could also have been in Sunday's team ahead of Tomas. I guess only the boss knows what is going

Wilshere's injury left me very concerned whilst at the ground. With mobile phone signals behind harder to find than a Chamakh shot, I was left in the dark for sometime until I was finally able to hear the news via twitter.

It gave Rosicky the chance to play central and also gave youngster Benik Afobe the chance to feature for the first team. Gervinho was less effective in the final third than previous Arsenal games but he still ran at players which was great to see.

I thought Rosicky rolled back the years in the center of midfield, some of his movement to make space to receive a pass was wonderful. He twisted and turned and linked his team together, The only thing that was missing consistently was the final pass, When he did make that final pass we were not able to take our chances.

Aaron Ramsey was wasteful and Van Persie was not presented with many chances. But currently our first team is missing its creative edge, its spark is unsettled and is not available so it is no surprise that we were not at our incisive best.

Cesc Fabregas is the player who opens the door, Samir Nasri is the player who skips past challenges and gets into dangerous positions, Theo Walcott scores goals and makes assists. None of these players were available to Arsene Wenger either through injury or possible departure. If Cesc or Nasri leave the club then Wenger will buy a creative replacement or two. That should be obvious.

Thierry Henry's reception was wonderful, he was cheered louder than the Arsenal players. He still has that x factor as well. Keeps the ball in the tightest of areas and still has the vision to cut open teams as he showed for the equaliser.

I was willing Henry to score just so we could cheer his goal, the result of the game meant absolutely nothing to me whatsoever so when the boo's rang around the ground at the full time whistle I was truly bemused. Honestly, I thought I had missed an incident or something.

Were the supporters really booing because we did not win a pre season friendly? Frustration is obviously building up because we are short on silverware, we pay the highest ticket prices and we haven't completed all our transfer business yet like many other clubs etc etc but is this the precedent that we are setting?

If fans are going to boo before the season starts then does this mean that any result in the actual season that is less than three points deserves booing from our own fans?

This is only my opinion and I don't claim to speak for anyone but myself, but it is absolutely insane. I respect that some others are less patient and more frustrated than myself, that is only normal but if everyone wants Arsenal to win trophies then this is certainly not the way to go about it.

If I was an undercover Tottenham fan with an aim to make Arsenal a worst team then  I would go to the ground and boo with the hope that it makes the atmosphere hostile and tense. I am not suggesting that those who booed are similar to Tottenham supporters, I am sure that is far from the case but those actions are far more detrimental to our team than what any Tottenham fan could muster.

There has to be a better way to let your feelings known than turning what is supposed to be the 12th man into the 10th man. Contact the club, write to Gazidis about how we need Loric Cana, Miguel Veloso, Mark Schwarzer or whichever the latest player is supposed to make us the best. Poisoning the atmosphere at our home ground is surely not going to bring success to the club. I would suggest that if you want a greater chance of success that then the mindless booing has to stop.

It wasn't the best Emirates Cup in the world but big movement both in and out is still on the cards so viewing that team as the final product would be ill advised at this time.

I cannot wait for the transfer window to close so we can get on with the proper football, the rest is a little depressing right now.

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Comments (110)

• 01-Aug-2011 18:19 | | dan
  

  the booing had nothing to do with the game and all to do with the fans utter frustration with the way the club is being run and the way wenger has learnt absolutely NOTHING from the past few years.

• 01-Aug-2011 18:20 | | dan
  

  booing doesn't help, but it is the only fans can make themselves heard, it is time the club woke up and smelled the roses, and if booing helps them get there then why not.

• 01-Aug-2011 18:25 | | Denzil
  

  Hear, hear!!! I agree, I think that we have all had enough of being mugged off with "we are working long days and nights to get the players we need" now it looks like we lost mata coz we not cough up the dough. Aw said we are waiting to see about cesc deal?? Well where is the money we was told was in the transfer kitty????

• 01-Aug-2011 18:25 | | MeanLean
  

  But how can this be decided after a pre season friendly? The transfer window hasn't closed, the whole world and his dog know that Cesc could be off and possibly Nasri, Wenger has already said that he will spend in this window.

• 01-Aug-2011 18:26 | | MeanLean
  

  So here is another question. Do we boo every game that we do not pick up three points if it is ok to boo in a friendly before the season starts?

• 01-Aug-2011 18:29 | | Steve
  

  I dont think for a minue people were booing because of that one result, it's because our defnsive frailties were exposed yet again (twice over the weekend) and because everyone is p@ssed off with still no defensive signings despite this once being promised we are being "very active". Yes the transfer window is still open but with the massive August we have coming up and the first game less than 2 weeks away it would have been sensible and a confidence boost to get our signings done and integrated into the team.
  
  Then add to the fact our captain is essentially on strike and nasri is being held against his will, it all adds up to frustration and anger and the only way people can vent this is through voicing their opinion and really the only way to do this is to boo - how else can you be heard? Especially as we pay the highest ticket prices in Europe.
  
  Before you slate me, I am a season ticket holder, I have renewed, and I wasnt at the games this weekend.

• 01-Aug-2011 18:31 | | Anonymous
  

  The whole world knows what we need, except wenger, with a few million spent we could win the league (last season if we strengthened in jan...) but we are showing no urgency, its all bollocks.

• 01-Aug-2011 18:41 | | dan
  

  people will be booing every game if they don't at least try and do something to solve the glaring deficiences they have, they have done nothing to help so far and totally understandable for fans to be pissed off. just having to pay for and watch that crap yesterday was enough to be pissed off about let alone sitting here two weeks to go and captain on strike, no defence etc etc etc. this whole mata thing if true is utterly beyond belief, should have sold nasri and brought in mata end of. what a bunch of amatuers they are. unbelievable. i was actually quite optimistic a month ago because i thought there was no way they wouldn't do what was needed and yet here we are and things are even wors than we could have imagined.

• 01-Aug-2011 18:41 | | Ming The Merciless from Mitcha
  

  If Arsenal want to charge through the nose for people to watch tripe then people can do want they want. So Booooooo!

• 01-Aug-2011 18:42 | | MeanLean
  

  Steve,
  
  Slating people is certainly not my style.
  
  The way I see it is that everyone including the manager wants to add to the squad or keep his stars here, some of that could be out of his hands. Of course we want to do our business early but it is not as easy as saying we want to do all our work on the first day of the window and thats it. There are many factors involved..
  
  Chelsea, Tottenham and many other clubs who often spend massive money are yet to show their hands because maybe their targets are not yet available.
  
  My point was more that booing does absolutely nothing to help the team on the pitch and surely that is our aim as supporters.
  
  Secondly the window is not closed and most of business happens at the end so why the need to prematurely boo?
  
  And like I said, do we now boo every game we do not win?

• 01-Aug-2011 18:48 | | A Gooner among others
  

  Oh come on Mean Lean, you know perfectly well why people booed.
  They booed because they think the summer isn't going well.
  
  We still have an awful lot of transfers (ins and outs) to do and it seems we are not efficient at all.
  Moreover our captain is disrespecting us, the club and the manager of our club.
  
  AND frankly it is a disgrace to make people pay so much to attend games where the players do not produce any entertainment.
  Weren't you angry to have paid for games the players didn't play seriously ?

• 01-Aug-2011 18:53 | | IndiGooner  - In Wenger We Trust
  

  Lovely games, Good to se Andre and Thomas back i hope the continue play with same zeal and energy. I am impressed with Fringpong, Afobe, Carl and Gervinho.. I hope they will continue to shine.. The only Disappointing part was the booing on both days... what ever be the reason Bartley could not handle the pressure of first First team action at home and was suppoed to block the shot of The Legend.. what like of Rio and Jamie have failed to do with years of experience how could Bartley stop that shot..
  What was important was we did not loose... and this might act as a blessing in disguise.. this might wake up some sleeping giants and We might get some good players..but I am Over all happy with the performance though there was scope for improvement.. we could have scored more Goals..
  
  "In Wenger We Trust"

• 01-Aug-2011 18:54 | | dan
  

  we can't get rid of the dross in the squad and there lies half the problem, the past 3 years of a failed policy have finally come home to roost, to many poor players earning too much money and the real genuine quality players have lost faith in the manager. when it gets to the point that an 18 year old, wilshire publically has to say what everyone thinks it shows that everyone other than our manager and board know we are going NOWHERE fast. give it a year and man city will be offerning jack 200k a week and he will be off as well.

• 01-Aug-2011 19:09 | | Ted  - many at arsenal playing or coaching for money, whi
  

  fans had been reasonable and supportive all these years without any silverware so u got no right to question them. our star players want to leave and i dont blame them they r tired of wengers bullshit every year as we too are now becoming ..... so management should also start paying good attention to the fans.... before they also start leaving the game.
  
  many at arsenal are playing or coaching for millions of $, while the fans are coming everyweek for LOVE of Arsenal.... so dont you dare tell us we are wrong for booing. it'll get worse till we see some change. no one is bigger than the team ....

• 01-Aug-2011 19:19 | | JOEL  - PLEASE EXPLAIN
  

  Can someone please explain whay exactly Ivan Gazidas does for the Club.Apart from acting as a glorified PA to th Board this guy seems absolutely incapable of putting a Transfer deal together unless the person in question is below the age of 18.Every single sale or purchase since his employment has been ridiculously drawn out and if he's responsible for the Club missing out on Mata (as speculated) then he should find alternate employment.
  At this stage the team have only a few weeks to prepare for fixtures which will shape the Season-but we have a Club Captain who is effectively on strike and another senior squad member who seems completely disinterested because he too wants to leave.Whilst I don't agree with the booing of the team I fully appreciate the frustrations growing amongst the fans.Every proper supporter hopes that this Arsenal team will fulfill potential; but whilst the "Powers That Be" are handicapping the team by not bringing in necessary supplimentary players and not sorting out important issues amongst the squad then we will all have to put up with more consternation and the booing will unfortunately become even more vocal!!!

• 01-Aug-2011 19:19 | | eve  - we're not all henry fans
  

  i thought we played pretty darn good yesterday, how many shots on goal did we have? loads, the trouble was only one went in. the only way in which id have been pleased if henry scored was if it was an own goal, sure he was a great player, but as everyone keeps saying, its not about the player, its about arsenal, thomas rosicky was outstanding as of coarse was robin, it was a great family day out, so, we didnt win the cup this season, its only a friendly, get over it, theres more important things ahead. oh and ARSENE RULES, BIG TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

• 01-Aug-2011 19:20 | | gooner boi
  

  asene wenger out im going with a big banner to the emirates and i ll continue to boo until we see some improvement to the squad wenger is taking the piss he lied to us where are all the signings he promised he could have bought mata for just 18m yesterday now hell cost 50m our best player always leave and he doesn't invest the money back into the squad and he doesn't invest it on our best players contracts instead he uses it to give dead wood large contracts our wage bill is already over 100m we have the second largest revenue in the league and we cant buy a player worth 15m under wenger nothing will change until he leaves the club he is now the main problem as he is too arrogant to change with the times

• 01-Aug-2011 19:20 | | Ted
  

  wake up! else 20 years from now without any silverware u will like liverpool.

• 01-Aug-2011 19:22 | | indian gooner
  

  ML,
  I am for the boos.I say better now than during the season.The board and wenger have taken the fans for a big ride.We gave wenger enough rope and he has now hung us dry with his narrow vision.Giving big hikes to crap players that they are now unsaleable.Genuine talent having no hope for this team.the so called kids project has failed big time.This was evident last season.But again at the start of this preseason, we were told eboue,bendtner,almunia etc would be sold.But WTF was eboue doing on the pitch if he is not in the managers plans for this coming season.i would have liked to give jenkinson another go at the second half instead for this clown.The manager coming out and saying through out that he is "looking for the right players".how long does he want to look.SAF did the business in days while we seem to take months.SAf loaned bebe as soon as he realised his mistake, sold his crap of oshea etc.but dross like denilson and diaby were/are given years to mess up our game.almunia had to **** up bigtime for chesney to get games.why didnt he buy given when he was available for 8mill?How long do u want fans to keep mum.
  i say let the boos get louder if changes are not afoot.we need a good defence coach, a LB( gibbs/traore wont do it), a new defender( sell squillaci or is even he on so high a pay that no one will sniff him), sell chamakh( hes crap and i cant believe he scored so many goals last season.i can believe a lean patch but this guy is having a drought), cut losses and let diaby,almunia,bendtner,eboue leave.either ask nasri to sign or sell him too.put cesc on the open market.give him the option that he has to take an offer from another club so we dont lose any money.im fed up of mollycoddling these pussies for so long that they have begun to dictate to AW and the club.mourinho/SAF wouldnt have any of these shit in their clubs.they rule the roost over the players and that is needed in our club too.
  
  We need Ivan telling AW to buckle up or even his head should roll.AKBs dont come saying who we will replace him with.We were in the same situation when graham went, when Vieira went,when henry went...we have to move on.spend some money else the board will continue to feel the heat.

• 01-Aug-2011 20:07 | | Passenal
  

  "why wasn't Samir Nasri included in what should have been our strongest available team?"
  
  Nasri played 90 minutes on Saturday, he will also not be available for the CL game due to suspension. I was glad that Rosicky got the chance to play in the middle and show what he can do attacking and defending.
  
  I agree with you re the booing - if you can't support, don't bother to turn up. Anti-support is a waste time.

• 01-Aug-2011 20:11 | | Phil
  

  Some completely clueless idiots on here who think that they know how to run a football club but unfortunately don't even know how to SUPPORT one. You reds!

• 01-Aug-2011 20:41 | | Steve
  

  Like I said I don't believe people were booing the players and certainly not because of that result, it's a culmination of years of frustration and pateience that is begining to wear thin and people are starting to show dissent - which is completely understandable, and in all honesty Wenger and the Board have been given enough time and understanding.
  
  It's also the fact that it's the same weaknesses again and again which every single fan, blogger, pundit, ex-player, ex-manager can see, but Wenger hasn't properly addressed it since Sol left in 5 YEARS AGO - which is why it makes it insane that he doesn't do anything about it.
  
  I appreciate your point that there are several factors when conducting transfers, but if ever there was a time to show intent, to build bridges, to instill some confidence and create a feel good factor then this was it - and as I said, we have a terrible fixture list in August and does anyone feel confident going into it with the current squad? For example, if we are in for Cahill and are waiting to try and scrimp 1-2 mil off the price, why? We have the money, and we could have got him months ago, he could be settled, gone on tour and played with his team mates to get an understanding.....
  
  We cant afford to wait until the end of the window, it could be too late by then and, worst case scenario what if we dont qualify for the champions league, we wont even be able to attract the highest quality player anyway.
  
  Booing doesnt help - but then Wenger and the Board have brought this on themselves and they still haven't acted. And until they do people are going to continue to be angry and frustrated and let their feelings known.
  
  After all, it is our club, they are only the custodians.

• 01-Aug-2011 20:50 | | Danish Gooner  - Booing.
  

  Dont be a fucking tosser Meanlean,the cows are coming home in droves.They boo because Arsenal and especially Arsene Wenger is running the club into the ground.Two weeks till the action begin and we still cant finalize a deal for a proper defender,what the hell is going on ?? Do anyone actually hold Wenger accountable to anything or is Silent Stan just completely blaze about it all ? My guess is he doesnt give a fuck about Arsenal football club.Wenger stated right after the seasons that we had to improve on several basics of our football.Tell me exactly where are the improvements ??? Djourou looked every bit a third rate defender against Boca.Squid,i better not mention him because my blood pressure will explode.Kos,every bit as shaky as ever and against inferior opponents i might well add.

• 01-Aug-2011 21:06 | | Passenal
  

  Mean Lean is not a loser, he's a supporter, unlike you.

• 01-Aug-2011 21:21 | | Eagleye
  

  Nice piece ML as always. I think Wenger has a bit of a dilemma on his hands in that Vermalen and Koscielny actually look quite decent at the back. So if he were to buy Jagielka/Cahill, where would he slot them in? Somebodies going to be unhappy. He also risks holding Kyle Bartley and Miquel back, so I'm not sure Wenger is going to sign a CB we all want.
  
  Also think that the Mata transfer is dependent on Cesc staying or going. We badly missed Cesc yesterday as this team is still built around him, you can see now though that Wenger is changing his tactics slightly for the future midfield of Wilshire and Rambo. Problem is that Wilshire got injured and Rambo had an off day so we weren't at our best. There was no need to boo, in fact I was glad we didn't win the emirates cup as I've always felt it's a bit of a curse anyway! We will be better this year for definite, all these tourists and bitter fans need to grow up, even some of the kids around me were asking their dads why they were being booed, if a five year old can see it's nonsense then that says it all.

• 01-Aug-2011 21:29 | | goonerish
  

  I agree with indian gooner

• 01-Aug-2011 21:52 | | John  - Boo boys
  

  What a load of cobblers; do you have different boos then? One for the Board, another one for Wenger and a third one for the team? Did Bartley know you did your Board Boo? Morons the lot of you. No wonder Arsenal has such a bad home record. Can't blame Fab for wanting to leave, I wouldn't want to play for a team with such crap supporters.

• 01-Aug-2011 22:05 | | Johnny  - At last
  

  Well ML, it appears that everyone is aware of the shambles that is going at our club now except you and and a few arsene apologists. Your positive spin on everything Arsene and the players is really becoming a laughing stock. for your own sake take your head out of the sand, take your rose tinted glasses off, stop your denial and waken up FFS. You must have noticed the change in the posts in your site, its not a comfy AKB chat room anymore. The Arsenal fans have had enough of the lies, the greed, the deadwood, the chokers and bottlers and finally the deluded idiot Arsene Wenger.

• 01-Aug-2011 22:20 | | Gino92
  

  ML,
  I don't believe that the booing has anything to do with the actual result. I honestly think that the fans were beyond frustrated by our players making the same mistakes over and over and over. Every season, they claim to have learned from their mistakes but their performances on the pitch prove otherwise. Once again, criminal defending was on display in the second half of both games. We played a high line and then gave the ball away cheaply only to get punished or the ball comes into our box and there is instant panic. Nobody knows what to do anymore, you see players hacking away needlessly instead of staying calm and under control and just defending. It just seems like when they panic, they make things a lot worse for themselves and the result is obvious for all to see. We really do need a CB with a calming influence and strong voice. Image what it is like for our keepers when they see a panicky defense like the one we witnessed on Sunday with less than 10 minutes to go. At one point I just couldn't believe what I had seen. How can we allow the ball to go up in the air and then bounce in our box with players standing around and nobody attacking it to clear it away to safety? I was truly amazed by that and I found it very worrisome. I hope that it is not a sign of things to come. Both Gibbs and Eboue got easily left behind as if they weren't even there a couple of times during the match on Sunday by the Red Bulls wingers/fullbacks and I immediately started thinking about Nani, Valencia, Adam Johnson, Gareth Bale, Aaron Lennon, and such. That really got me worrying a lot for this upcoming season.
  I think that Wenger should start talking tough to his players if he isn't already doing so. It is way past time for them to act responsibly for once and be held accountable. No more Mr Nice Guy. Apart from a select few of them, I don't think they do enough to repay Wenger's faith and trust in them.
  Anyway, there were obviously some positives to take away from the Emirates Cup such as Wilshere, Frimpong, Ramsey, Gervinho, and Van
  "the scoring machine" Persie. I hope Robin does stay injury-free for the
  majority of the new season, however I would not be holding my breath for
  that.
  
  Sorry for the rant. I guess I am still feeling a bit pissed of and frustrated by our defense and we haven't even dealt with many set pieces yet. I hope everything gets ironed out asap in the next couple of weeks or so.
  
  Go Gunners!

• 01-Aug-2011 22:53 | | John the gooner  - Buy Buy
  

  The frustration is clear.....the squad is not strong enough... we need one or two good centre halfs, we need a left back, maybe Jose Enrique, we need a strong holding midfield player, also why did we not buy Shay Given? We need to get rid of Almunia, Flapianski + Arshavin, Bendtner, Squilarchie, Chamakh, Vela... The truth is the squad is not mature enough .for example Cesc is going so who is mature enough and strong enough to be club captain? There is not natural leader who can take this role.....This highlights the fact that all our first team are young and without any real experience.....as our players mature they leave the Arsenal and move on so we are left with youngsters...are we an academy or a real team? True we are left with very good youngsters but without the maturity required to win any major honours....who really deserves their first team place.....for me and many other gooners we can maybe say Szczeny, Vermaelen, Sagna, Ramsey, Wilshere, Song, Nasri (seems he wants out) Van Persie, Walcott and hopefully Gervinho (as yet unproven in the PL) THAT IS just TEN PLAYERS WITH ONLY 2 DEFENDERS......ManU, Liverpool, Man City and Chelsea are spending 50 to 100 million each and their squads were stronger than ours last season, now it seems we are losing Cesc, Nasri, Bendtner and of course Clichy that is four major first team players (Bendtner did play) and so far we have bought just one player who could maybe qualify as a first team player, there is just 2 weeks to go to the start of the season so even if we buy some players in the next 2 weeks they will hardly be ready for the opening game of the season.....in the first month we are facing 2 Champions league games, Newcastle away, ManU and then home to Liverpool, the fact is we do not have a full first 11 to play these games......, Walcott, Diaby and Wilshere are injured so we will be forced to play youngsters who are just not ready, even if we had kept Clichy, Cesc, Bendtner and Nasri we probably needed to buy 4 or 5 quality players to have a decent squad.......... the fact is with 4 players leaving you could argue for buying 7 or 8 quality, experienced players and so far we have bought just one………….My first 11 would be Shay Given, Sagna, Vermaelen, Samba, Jose Enrique, Song, Wilshere, Ramsey, Walcott (as main striker) Van Persie just behind Walcott and Givinho on the wings......we then need a good reserve mix on the bench, Szczesny, Gibbs,Koscielny, Traore, Frimpong, Diaby, Rosicky, Miyaichi, Vela.........even with this squad we are clearly short of reserve holding midfield and a creative midfield player.......no wonder the fans are booing they want to let Wenger know he has to buy because our squad is just NOT strong enough……….even the players are starting to leave because they want to win something and do not really believe they can with Arsenal, I’m sure they would love to win with Arsenal but they realise without major transfers it just will not happen so the fans are booing and the players are leaving just ask Clichy, Nasri and Cesc?

• 02-Aug-2011 00:16 | | sheku conteh  - mr
  

  My honest judgement about Arsenal is that,it is a business organisation that buy players cheap turned them to better players and sell them at a higer price and make colosal profit that is not profitable to the club or to the fans..It is a club that focuses on making profit rather than putting cups on cabinent or making the fans happy.Pls boss man buy players or else i would go on free tranfer to preston North End.

• 02-Aug-2011 00:30 | | pika
  

  well said ..+1 from me
  
  so steve just because some muppets dont comprehend that arsenal works with an eye to the future and is still in repayment phase you think they can boo like uncivilised ungreatful animals to THE MANAGER that has turned arsenal to the world class club it is today ?
  
  gimme trophies arsne wtf? sort it out? go. booo
  
  these fans are weak fans who cant identify with the fact that with the competition arsenal faces we are in fact overachieveing all these years and instead of kneeling and saying thank you to arsene for wht he has done you think you can doubt him ? and boo him ? like an urangotang who didnt get his banana?
  
  sorry ..you aint fans....you are customers...and in fact idiots for falling in medias anti arsenal campaigns and victims of rivals taunting.
  
  what custodians and the clubs is yours and b*llocks ..victoria concordia crescit ffs u absolute mugs ...nice to see the fans doing their part hey....
  
  does the team's budget the last few years (15m max) indicate to you theyre going for the trophies ?
  
  you think arsenal can go in direct competition with chelsea and city an dutd for players? thats suicide. since you cant beat them now....you wait to take advantage...thats football ..works in cycles...in the meantime you make as much as you can and spend wisely....

• 02-Aug-2011 00:43 | | pika
  

  lol...so much fear and weakness
  
  
  wenger and his narrow vision? i dont know whether to laugh or cry at your narrow mindness. the man took a pi55poor club of alcoholics and turned it into a global force. he has not won shit in 6 years yet voted manager of the decade simply because at a money spent/points won ratio he is second to none. this means that he gets results , and important results, out of peanut purchases. he reached a climax at highbury with the 04 team and expanded the club and has kept it competitive with children and almunias and forced his rivals to outspend him to marginally beat him. maybe you dont see it that way and im sorry for you , but just cause you like drowing in a table spoon of water and deny to see the forrest behind the tree dont mean that you can boo. in fact and in my humble opinion you aint even qualified to even consider in your thinking that you can doubt a manager like wenger let alone boo him like an uncivilised ungreatful pratt.

• 02-Aug-2011 00:50 | | pika
  

  frustration is one thing ...being ungreatful is another thing though
  
  and booing wenger after what hes done for this club is so disrespectful id classify it as insane.
  
  people who boo at our fantastic manager should be spat at. simple

• 02-Aug-2011 02:14 | | Harrypotter's Arsenal  - - Is that so?
  

  I guess your brillant hypotesis explains why the really stupid manager refused N20M for nasri from mancity... How totally refreshing
  
  If I had my wand I'll just cast a spell "hogwat, megrats... let all those who boo, turn to smelly rats"
  
  There, that does it. Let's see if some of them idiots have no self preservation...
  
  **insert wicked laughter**

• 02-Aug-2011 09:05 | | richie  - The new breed of "supporter" have no shame
  

  Fact our support is crumbling!
  Not because we haven't won anything in 6 years but because with our move up market we've moved away from our roots. The up-market ticket price's have alienated a large sway of our old supporters and suplimented them with the Canonbury set, who have little loyalty to Arsenal as a club. We now have supporters who's attitude is we pay for our tickets, we are paying for success.
  
  I'm ashamed of our current breed of booing supporters! Our supporters couldn't be further away from our old rivals "The cop"
  They haven't won the league in 21 years yet they support!
  In many ways we mirror their team. We were CL finalists the year they last won the FA cup 2006 and we won the FA cup the year before them. So they ain't won anything in 5, we ain't in 6. Contrast their support with ours has anyone heard them boo their own?
  
  Can Gooners claim to support their team the way the Cop supports Liverpool? Not anymore unfortunately! Those who stood freezing their nuts off week in week out on the north bank might be able to claim that level of support but our current crop doesn't even understand the word support!
  
  Its not Arsenal supporters that boo their team,or club, or board, or manager. Spuds might boo us and we them, but how can any real Gooner do the Spuds job for them and boo our own? Its shameful!!!
  Support our team, stand up for our team, support our club, stand up and be counted for our club, but if you want to boo? Then politely F*** Off and do "your supporting" elsewhere!

• 02-Aug-2011 09:19 | | richie  - Well said John
  

  All those W**k**s that post crap like if only Arsene spent a few million more we'd be able to recruit better players need to wake up and smell the coffee. If you were a little genious with the ball like an Eden Hazard thinking of joining a premier league outfit and you watched a friendly at the Emirates "thinking great stadium". What would you think hearing the boo boys? Great stadium! Great club! Shame they can't match it with great supporters!
  
  I think I'll join a club with great supporters!

• 02-Aug-2011 09:25 | | indian gunner forever  - awesome reply pika........
  

  couldn't agree more pika........if anything Wenger has over-achieved with the resources the club has given him over the past 6 years. Give the same dough to Mourinho and Fergie and they would quit the job in a jiffy..........

• 02-Aug-2011 09:45 | | sapman
  

  fans have been reasonable and supportive ? youre taking the pi55 here arent you ?
  
  they are booing the manager who built arsenal in the modern force it is today
  
  they are booing players who havent even learned how to shave yet
  
  they are booing cause they cant analyse or compare correctly our situation from our rivals
  
  
  in the end of the day those who boo are frustrated ...and they are frustrated cause theyve fallen victims of anti arsenal media camapaign and rival fans taunting you ...and you swallow it all like sheep.
  
  
  booing wenger ? are u for real...you deserve to be spat at for showing such disrespect. certainly not be allowed to enter our jewel of a stadium.

• 02-Aug-2011 09:59 | | sapman
  

  100% WELL SAID
  
  if they dotn like it they can f*ck off to the lane or the bridge ..maybe them clubs fullfill their ambitions

• 02-Aug-2011 10:03 | | richie  - Like Liverpool? You mean we'll have supporters
  

  If we're like the pool in 20 years then at least we'll have great support unlike the boo- boy crap support that passes for Arsenal support now. Call yourselves Gooners? Its Shameful!

• 02-Aug-2011 10:28 | | sapman
  

  give it a year and man city will be offerning jack 200k a week and he will be off as well.
  
  
  if he is a traitor let him go then ...

• 02-Aug-2011 12:40 | | Podge
  

  Ever think that Wenger is trying to keep Fabregas and that the Mata deal isn't dependent on money but whether Cesc stays or goes?

• 02-Aug-2011 12:56 | | Podge
  

  Liverpool are Kop not Cop but other than that you couldn't be more right. I suppose we can thank the London transport system for all this as the original Ashburton Grove plan was a 75 000 seater but they would only grant permission for a 60 000 so the seats in the stadium were made wider giving the fat cats more ass room and higher ticket prices. We have the best stadium in Britain but there is more than financial cost to that.The club effectively sold the support from the stands in order to compete long term and that sucks but for me being an Arsenal fan means unconditional support. We are lucky in a way to support one of the only clubs to give fans a voice at the AGM and Gadzidis and Wenger have both got an absolute bollocking form Arsenal fans in the past 2 years. They know the problems and they know how the fans feel they are also know that 99% of football fans/people are dumbasses who have no opinion of their own so do you want Silvestre mark II brought in to strengthen the defence or Adams mark II?

• 02-Aug-2011 13:10 | | Podge
  

  The most painful memory for me the last 6 years isn't a cup final defeat a lead let slip it's 3-0 up against Celtic and hearing them loudly sing "3-0 AND YOU STILL WONT SING" i was actually embarrassed by that, it was a shameful display by the Arsenal 'faithful' the most loose use of that term ever. You claim our star players are tired of Wenger's bullshit every year despite the fact all of them speak so highly of Wenger while they are here and after they leave.It is much more likely they get sick of your bullshit Arsenal offer great football and a good chance of trophies other clubs such as city/utd/chelsea offer good chance of trophies, money and better fan support than us footballers want those 4 things in varying order we offer 2 our rivals offer at least 3.

• 02-Aug-2011 13:17 | | Podge
  

  There is no fun left in being an Arsenal fan thanks to these booing wankers. I'm seriously considering no more contact with football bar watching the 90mins of football with no volume so I can just watch my Arsenal play football in peace. It's sad to say but when pre-season friendlies are being boo-ed that's the end of our club being respected, our dirt fan support was bad enough, listening to insults from other fans about the 'library' but there is absolutely no call for being a pre season game which we actually didn't lose and only conceded when wholesale changes were made.
  WE ARE NOW OFFICIALLY THE WORST FOOTBALL FANS IN THE WORLD BY SOME DISTANCE

• 02-Aug-2011 16:35 | | john  - bye bye
  

  minus 1 with you gone

• 02-Aug-2011 17:14 | | Den
  

  Well said ML those who boo really show their stupidity. If you really want wenger to go don't turn up if enough do this things will definitely change. But I suspect you all know that there are plenty of supporters that will take your place and back the club we love.
  
  You moan and boo but are too afraid to vote with your feet.

• 02-Aug-2011 22:14 | | pika
  

  they are afraid in general and weak in the mind. when you dont understand and cant explain what is happening to your club you react like an ape who hasnt been fed.
  
  they havent grasped that arsenal practically made a new beginning when moved to emirates. and the competition they face is the biggest ever. yet they are there and thereabouts with children so imagine what will happen when they repay the stadium and can buy serious players.
  
  the fans who boo are clueless really. frustrated idiots who need to be isolated for the good of the team..just liek they like to say no player or man bigger than the club same applies to them. when the team plays you dont boo, you support. and if in the end you dont like what you saw then dont come back. we have 60,000 people waiting..
  
  so go ask for a refund and stop b*sting our b@lls like crying housewives complaining about wanting a new mercedes when the husband just busted his gutts to pay the house mortgage...stick to your fkn fiat you slut and leave the mercedes for later ...till then shut up.
  
  but you see wenger is a diplomat and would never be as direct

• 02-Aug-2011 23:56 | | richie  - Thanks Podge
  

  At least some of our own can spell! (Never my strongest point)
  As we're into corrections it wasn't London Transport that scuppered the 75K seater stadium. It was Islington Council.
  
  The London Transport connection comes from Islington Council telling the club that they'd grant us the plans for a 75k - 90k stadium only if Arsenal massively upgraded Holloway road underground station to take the extra capacity. The plans intergrated Holloway tube into the stadium and those plans were provisionally accepted by the council.
  
  The problem was £££££'s the station incorporation would've cost the club another £250k+ on top of the stadium. So that was nito-ed by a certain fella with a degree in economic's!

• 03-Aug-2011 00:05 | | richie  - Greener grass elsewhere.
  

  Goodbye Preston Northender! This is a Gooner blog all those who see the grass greener elsewhere can go support clubs that can buy teams off the shelf.

• 03-Aug-2011 00:08 | | richie  - well spotted
  

  Selling clubs would've cashed in on Nasri & Cesc before their price's dropped!

• 03-Aug-2011 00:58 | | richie  - Sorry Ted your no Gooner
  

  Fans = Supporters
  Supporter dictionary def; A person who backs a sports team. Fans have been reasonable and supported all these years? All what years?
  6 measly years? Know your club read your clubs history. When we won the Fairs Cup in in 1970 it was our first in 17 years. Then we went 18 years before we won the league again in 1989 - In those interveining years we won the FA cup once after 8 years and then went a further 8 years before we won the Littlewoods cup.
  
  Ted I'd love fans like you to follow through and leave, we have a waiting list for seats so I'd love a fan like you to leave and give your seat to a real Gooner, the type of fan that supports his team for love not only when they are winning. Gooners should support AFC win lose or draw.

• 03-Aug-2011 01:23 | | richie  - Thats support!!!
  

  In December 2009 just before new years we went to Portsmouth after 70mins we were 3 up and their supporters just like Celtic's put us to shame, they sung their hearts out and they managed to give their well beaten team a lift. With 15mins left they scored and the roof came off!
  Then with 10mins to go we scored again making it 1-4 and still they sung encouragements after the final whistle. When they won the FA cup in 2008 it was only their second time the first being 68 years before. They were league champions over 60 years ago in 49&50 and they'll probably never win anything again. Their supporters don't need to win something to be a great supporters, they love their club & their team. If only we had that level of support!

• 03-Aug-2011 09:27 | | sapman
  

  WELL SAID RICHIE .
  
  those who boo..like pika very correctly says are weak people..weak in the mind weak in their beliefs weak in character.
  
  and yes since arsenal wont miss them they can pi55 off to the bridge if they want to support their club
  
  do an ashley you moaning tw@ts ..its far more respectable than booing

• 03-Aug-2011 12:53 | | Andy Mack
  

  I guess you must have special inside info on these attempted deals if you know what he can and can't do.
  Please explain.

• 03-Aug-2011 12:56 | | Andy Mack
  

  1) there is still time before the end of the transfer window
  2) Which newspaper told you about the Mata deal and the 18m becoming 50m?

• 03-Aug-2011 13:04 | | Podge
  

  Thanks for the little wanker comment john I think instead of giving up I'l just get my fun from trying to piss off pricks like you. Only takes a few minutes out of my day to write some positive opinions about Arsenal but fucks with your Anti-Arsenal support agenda and maybe when the season starts and Arsenal are winning you might change your mind but I doubt it

• 03-Aug-2011 13:05 | | Andy Mack
  

  I agree about nasri, but still can't work out where anyone trustworthy has mentioned 20m (that's alot for a player with only 12 months contract left.

• 03-Aug-2011 13:32 | | Man United Killa  - new breed?Joker!
  

  What makes you think people who are complianing about the management of the club are a new breed of supporters.The fact that they are unhappy does not mean they have only joined the Arsenal Bandwagon.Comments like this make you seem inexperienced.

• 03-Aug-2011 13:35 | | Man United Killa
  

  The manager who you claim built the modern force that Arsenal is, is now building a modern laughing stock!Let go off past glories.The future is now!

• 03-Aug-2011 13:37 | | Man United Killa
  

  Thank you!

• 03-Aug-2011 13:38 | | Man United Killa
  

  ARSENAL RULES IN WENGERS DREAMS!BIG TIME!

• 03-Aug-2011 13:39 | | Man United Killa
  

  lol..I agree we need a change....dont know though if booing is the way to go..but then again why not?it's the only language the board understand.

• 03-Aug-2011 13:46 | | Man United Killa  - forget the league...Emirates cup was too hard for
  

  Like I said last season....and it came to pass..."We wont win a plastic cup with the current state of the squad"..Best players who are not committed,signings who are substandard,a defence that leaks in more goals than a fishing basket leaks water,a midfield who dont work hard to support the defence,a team whose players dont shoot,a team half of whose players dont know how to cross a ball and a manager who is blinded by an insanely ridiculous ambition to win on the cheap.It aint gonna happen until something things change!
  This team is so close yet so far!It wont happen until we make those teeny tiny vital changes.

• 03-Aug-2011 16:58 | | pika
  

  what YOU said last season , or what YOU will say next season is practically irrelevant to the methods the club has chosen to run its activities.
  
  you talk about on field matters which to be sorted out you need to have the kind of club which does not care about the cost but only the result.
  
  in a club like arsenal where the club makes its own money and ends each season at a profit, the things that you ask for are unrealistic at best. the reason why wenger has a leak defence is because he does not have the funds to bring in chielini and puyol nor the appetite to pamper divas nor the resources to pay them 200k per week.
  
  the signings which you call substandard help arsenal achieve a top four finnish every year since their transition from highbury to the grove. if you think that such a feat is easy with teenagers in the competitive environment of the premiership then you are naive and clueless.
  
  those vital little changes you talk off wenger has thought about them ten years before you even started considering them and he will do them one at a time when the time is right and provided the current climate and situations permit him to do so.
  
  if these simple things are too hard for you to grasp then please dont comment on arsenal. your ignorance and lack of basic concepts such as patience and support and waiting for a LONG-term project to payoff through hard work is staggering and quite offensive.
  
  it offends my intelligence to read your negative, fearfull and full of weakness " i see the glass half empty" tirades for a club that has climbed to 3rd richest place in world football simply because it works in the highly sophisticated and tight manner that it does.
  
  it is this sensible management that allows arsenal to be considered part of the elite in world football clubs even though they have not won anything for 6 years and have never won the european big one.
  
  if this club ever becomes big in the mould of an ajax a barcelona a munich l;iverpool a united it will owe it to the foundations set by arsene wenger and nobody else. the least you lot can do is support him

• 03-Aug-2011 17:01 | | pika
  

  your tiny little english mentalities of "either we win a trophy or wenger has to go" belong to gloryseekers and urangotangs..certainly not civilised people who have the modicum of logic to see that this manager is in fact the best damn thing that has ever happened to this club

• 03-Aug-2011 17:24 | | Andy Mack
  

  Your prediction was minutes away from falling at the first fence (TinPotCup Final), but eventually you were correct.
  
  The defence doesn leak goals. Look at the stats. The problem is we've let in really stuipid goals at the wrong time.
  
  The crossing has been poor but equally there have been quite a few crossed exactly where the No9 should have been, but wasn't.

• 03-Aug-2011 17:40 | | john  - TRULY OBJECTIVE, UNLIKE THIS SITE
  

  http://yankeegunnerblog.wordpress.com/2011/08/03/the-summer-of-our- discontent/

• 03-Aug-2011 17:46 | | MeanLean
  

  John, do you really believe that you are objective? Haha I've never heard you spout anything but doom.
  
  And yes, it is a well reasoned article BOTH arguments

• 03-Aug-2011 18:06 | | john
  

  glad you liked the Article Ml. There is nothing but doom around the club Ml. I suggest you read it again. And was the capital BOTH for effect.

• 03-Aug-2011 19:12 | | Man United Killa  - My fellow gooner Pika
  

  Your weak line of arguements make me sick at the least...Do you even know what I am asking for?Do you even know what my arguement is?Before you jump to conclusion about what my perspective is you could at least try to find out if I am in support of paying palyers 200k a week and spending 40 million pounds on players.
  If you ever have the time, there is something called "making a sound arguement" its what you have a remote chance of making when you know the variables involved.
  In any case,may I ask you how long you have been a gooner?you are one of the young gooners.yes?at least you sound like one!

• 03-Aug-2011 19:17 | | richie  - Muk learn to read before yon comment
  

  I never said new breed, I said current breed, and its your lack of reading that makes your comment seem inexpirenced. I criticise anyone who criticises my club because I spend most of my time defending the Arsenal against the Spuds who criticise us. If you wanna criticise the Arsenal I suggest you join the Spuds that way it will be understandable. If you want big money buys join the Chelski.

• 03-Aug-2011 19:22 | | Godwin
  

  We have 7 years of evidence that Wenger isn't going to sign the players necissary to at least challenge for titles. The definition of madness is doing someting over and over and expecting the same results. That is why people are boing, Arsenal is being destroyed, what would happen if we fail to qualify for the Champions league this year? I expect we'll get 4th, but if we don't will it be more cuts?

• 03-Aug-2011 19:29 | | Godwin  - richie = mug
  

  Clown. Supporters can citicise who they want, I pay a lot of money to watch Arsenal and I'm entitled to my view. Even if I couldn't go to watch them then I'd still be entitled to my opinion.
  
  You can defend that because that's your opinion, but the moment you spout that stupid "go support Spuds etc etc etc" line you are a clown. I doubt you ever actually say that to people's faces anyway.

• 03-Aug-2011 19:29 | | john
  

  

• 03-Aug-2011 22:56 | | ted
  

  the way arsenal is doing, in ten years you will look in the mirror and spit at ur self for what u posted here! as for me, if arsenal are not serious, I'd rather do something useful with my time this season .... and I'll watch the first 15 games to decide.
  
  who's behaving like a sheep now. i got the right to complain and i dont care if it is amidst 60,000 fans or the whole world. bu u think i'm harming the club or it's image? u sound primitive and stubborn JUST like AW!

• 04-Aug-2011 00:47 | | richie  - Meet me I ain't shy I'll tell it straight
  

  I live in Highbury and if I can't get to away games (too often unfortunately) I can be found at one of the staunch Gooner pubs in the area like The Robinson Crusoe Highbury Quadrant N16 or the Weavers Newington Green N1- You'll easily find me ask for Richie & call me a mug. Better still If you Boo in one of those pubs they'll be a race on. It'll be who chins Godwin first.

• 04-Aug-2011 10:11 | | sapman
  

  sorry mate ..the future is the future and the now is something different.
  
  laughing stock ? for who? our rivals? or the press ...what else were they gonna say .....
  
  sorry mate but if the opinion of the press or our rivals matters more to you then youve lost it.
  
  and just cause youre weak in the mind and cant see that arsenal isnt working for the now but for the future then dont comment

• 04-Aug-2011 10:15 | | sapman
  

  arsenal is doing great though ..3rd richest club without winning any trophies in the space of 6 years while in the middle of a transition and fielding younsgters
  
  your replies and critique do not take into account what ive just said ..why is that ?
  
  you judge arsenal as if arsenal is in the same boat with chelsea city and manure ....
  
  no you have no right to complain, in fact you should kneel in front of wenger and thank him for keeping the club comeptitive and MAKING PROFIT in the middle of a transition in a league where the players multiplied .....
  
  of course yorue harming the club . if these kids arent supported even at their most difficult of times dont expect them to seize the chance. you are killing your team with yoru inconsiderate booing.
  
  
  if you feel as a customer then dont ever go again...if youre a fan you will support cause as a fan you realise we are overachieving

• 04-Aug-2011 10:20 | | pika
  

  it is you who doesnt know what he is asking for
  
  you are asking from a club that was never big and never rich to spend like madmen right after they have gone through their biggest transition in their history for which they had to pay it through their own means.
  
  none of you has the ability to make any sound arguements for your opinions are polluted by frustration and media/rivals taunting.
  
  i have been a gooner long enough to remember that arsenal was never a club competing on four fronts and was never a club that would be a protagonist for 15 years in europe . i have been a gooner long enough to remember arsenal fluctuating between 7th and 12th domestically. i have been a gooner long enough to remember the boring boring arsenal. and i have been a gooner long enought o remember that 6 years without a trophy is a fkn joke when arsenal has gone for larger spells with nothing to show for it, and not even being close . with wenger, arsenal is ALWAYS there

• 04-Aug-2011 12:32 | | Omglol
  

  Win, Lose or Tie, Arsenal till we die!

• 04-Aug-2011 12:37 | | richie  - Time to remember who we are!
  

  Well said pika I too remember not winning anything for a decade. Then a cup every 8 years. I also remember the boring days when we had our famous "one nil to the Arse-en-al" chant. We played crap football, and won by mugging off better footballing teams, which was fine because we didn't have the flair players in those days.
  
  Whats amazing to me is that "Gooners"? On these blogs seem to spout exactly the same views that the Arsenal hating Robby Savage spouts on BBC Radio 5live. Listen to the 5live focus on Arsenal and then be prepared to see all those views rewritten by Gooners on the blogs in the following days.
  
  Isn't it obvious to all that we've never been a big spending club? Isn't it obvious that building a new staduim would cost the club big time?
  Is'nt it obvious we can't compete with the oil money big buys from Chelski & City and the debts Manu'er run up? Isn't it obvious that we are doing well for the amount of money we spend?
  
  Lastly isn't it obvious that Gooners who arrive on these blogs calling for buys show their true colours? They show that they are jealous of Chelski because Abromovich can buy any player for the bridge, and envious of Manu'er, because the Manu'er board let Taggart run up massive debt.
  
  Only Taggart as a manager has been more successful in the prem than AW and much of that success came about because before Abromovich arrived Manu'er were the richest club in England. Back then Taggart was the one who made all the big money buys, then with Chelski's arrival winning the prem became even more difficult, which is why Chelski won. Now we've got City's money in the mix and an even more even field. It ain't getting any easier. Gooners need to understand that!

• 04-Aug-2011 13:08 | | pika
  

  sn't it obvious to all that we've never been a big spending club? Isn't it obvious that building a new staduim would cost the club big time?
  Is'nt it obvious we can't compete with the oil money big buys from Chelski & City and the debts Manu'er run up? Isn't it obvious that we are doing well for the amount of money we spend?
  
  Lastly isn't it obvious that Gooners who arrive on these blogs calling for buys show their true colours? They show that they are jealous of Chelski because Abromovich can buy any player for the bridge, and envious of Manu'er, because the Manu'er board let Taggart run up massive debt.
  
  
  sadly these are the realities which the booing brigade likes to look away at.
  
  either they are blind or stupid , in any case they are not the ones to be making opinions on arsenal matters.
  
  if wenger hadnt arrived here fergie would be enjoying a monoply on the titles with his spending power. yet wenger got right in his face and won three titles of him with budgets to laugh at. and when roman came arsnee had a whole stadium move to consider while roman was buying verons essiens shevchenkos crespos makeleles etc .
  
  also dont forget many of these moaning tw@ts get their arsenal news from dein and usmanov. those two want in badly. why? because everyvbody else in world football is trying to do what wenger does at a profit.
  
  titles are a matter of consequences.. a fluke goal.. apenalty ...a foul a second yellow a ricoche ...continuation is whats important and having thef oundations to be there to comepte for them.
  
  cruyff worked for 40 years to barca to reach the current state .. fergie for 25 ..roman does it with money as does city ..wenger just started 6 years ago.
  
  how many barca generations were branded as losers before the success they experience now ? do the fans that boo have any perspective at all ? i doubt it

• 05-Aug-2011 07:15 | | james bond  - the reason they booo
  

  is because of frustration.. if wenger and the board would be honest with the fans and say hey we only have 15 million to spend so we wont be able to buy any expensive players until we sell, then they may not have been boo'd.
  i understand that the stadium has caused us to be a sell before we buy team..but i dont like it...why cant the so called custodiuns of the club put their hand in thier pockets ...are you saying all of our board members cant come up with 15 million oif they each put up 2-5 million of thier own money?

• 05-Aug-2011 09:15 | | pika
  

  well james bond in that case the fans are even dumber.
  
  managers who reach a status like ferguson and wenger also have to address the public politically...and provide diplomatic answers
  
  if wenger and the board came out 6 years ago telling you "forget about titles, we have just buolt a stadium for which we are gonna have to pay it thourgh our own means and that realistically forces us to go with youth for a while" ......NOONE WOULD BUY A TICKET
  
  and they need the fans to buy tickets to repay for the stadium.
  
  nwo if the fans are too myopic to see that this is for the long term benefit of the club then its their problem not arsenal's
  
  because to boo the manager that has created all that you see in arsenal in todays modern environment is the sign of a man who hasnt grasped what arsenal is doing, as well as a sign of weakness.
  
  the arsenal fans who think they have a right to boo because they pay a ticket are the kind of fans that we CERTAINLY dont need. i also get mad when we loose titles due to inexpreience but i dont throw tantrums or try to gain attention by booing like a girl on her period

• 05-Aug-2011 09:18 | | pika
  

  understand that the stadium has caused us to be a sell before we buy team..but i dont like it.
  
  
  well sorry but i dont think an organisation as arsenal which is working on a tight plan cares whether some myopic people like it or not
  
  this is what had to be done ..expansion, new stadium new beggining
  
  if you lot aint gonna support it then seriously go soemwhere else ...
  
  if you dont feel yuore getting back your moneys worth as a paying customer they can always refuse to pay
  
  i dont see myself as a customer though ....and it buffles me how those who boo claim that they do it out of love to their club ..they aint..they are just frustrated and clueless

• 05-Aug-2011 09:21 | | pika
  

  .are you saying all of our board members cant come up with 15 million oif they each put up 2-5 million of thier own money?
  
  
  hahahaha ...in which business do the owners risk their own personal fortunes mate ?? NONE .......
  
  you reckon the glazers have paid anything out of their own pockets for manchester? haha ...is that why they gave the clubs assets as collateral to the banks to purchase the club ?
  
  and as for roman ...well he is laundering money and if people cant see that then they are trully stupid
  
  the arabs are a diffferent breed ...they can swim in money and wasting some of it on city is like a toy for them a hobby ...arsenal is not a hobby ffs ..arsenal is a serious fkn football club that does things the RIGHT way. not a fkn circus

• 05-Aug-2011 10:13 | | richie
  

  I agree with a lot of what you say and your sentiments are firmly in the right place, but the reason we have jealous fans is because Abromovich at Chelski does put bundles of his own money in. Not only that but he's prepared to lose his money year in year out. The current Chelski buisness model isn't sustainable without Roman A's financial subsidy's and assistance. Chelski is Roman A's little toy, its his hobby so he doesn't mind indulging himself while spending some of his own fortune (possible while he's washing money for his pal Putin and bribing his way to win the WC for Russia). The Arabs might be floating on oil money, but then so is Abromovich after all like most of the oil sheiks he didn't work to get rich, he got rich being a friend to Putin.
  
  Usmanov the bod David Dein brought in is mega rich in oil money a bit like Abromovich but he won't invest in buying players for Arsenal he's a Manu'er fan. He only wants to profit take from Arsenal. Kroenke is also a multi millionaire invester, but he's a self made sports entrepreneur. Arsenal isn't his play thing! He makes money on his investments, he ain't gonna lose €20-30million buying Arsenal a present of a player like Benzima for example.

• 05-Aug-2011 10:54 | | richie  - CL Draw
  

  Quick comment for ML tough drawing Udenise! Now qualification becomes all important with at least €25m riding on it, that could be part of our player transfer funds. Maybe we really will have to sell before we buy! If we don't qualify what will all those who scream buy buy buy say if we can't afford to buy? Or worse players who wanted to come say no thanks we want to play CL.

• 05-Aug-2011 14:11 | | Tom
  

  A week to go till the start of the season and still NO signings.They will be made on the deadline day.Thats after 3 tough league games and a possible exit from the CL.The management of transfers this summer has beeen diabolical.And we still have a captain who doesnt want to play for us and Nasri a £20m loan signing

• 06-Aug-2011 09:22 | | pika
  

  haha godwin. so because you pay you think you can complain ?
  
  in that case youre a customer not a fan
  
  
  fans remember that arsenal was never a club fighting on four fronts and appreciate what they have instead of slagging and booing the best manager in our history
  
  and for gods sake you donat have to call richie names just cause he can see arsenal is on the right track unlike some manipulated fools who get their heads spinned by usdas

• 06-Aug-2011 09:36 | | pika
  

  ehm not exactly putin . putin chsed them all out of russia ..abramovic was smart enough to leave the country.. after balirs open invitation to foreign rich people ot ionvest to the epl where the english owners were stagnating. those who remainedin russia and refused to return whatthey had acquired through dodgy deals, putin arrested them ..the abramovic and mandarins or whatever theyre called they got their fortunes form yelcin when he sold the countries resources.
  
  romans money is russia money he is the custodian and they told him play ball and you keep it to play with and laundry it ..and thats what he does. buying clubc helicopters apartments yachts with anti-aircraft missiles etc etc
  
  as or dein..dein left cause when he proposed kronek to the board hillwood and the rest went mad and told david to pi55 off. david got angry left due to irrepairable damages and sold to usmanov.
  
  yes chelsea and city can say that their owners in some ways put money out of their own pockets though both have made their fortunes with scams, but as you correctly say..how long can they continue doing that ?
  
  lets see where chelsea isi in ten years and lets see where arsenal is. abramovic might be rich but he is not sentimentally connected to chelsea like say like moratti in inter who will die poor after spending all his fortunes on his biggest love , inter

• 06-Aug-2011 22:01 | | Ted
  

  i wishe i could leave and have my peace .... but i can't. so next season I'll hibernate ..... it pains me to see arsenal play well, score first and loooooose the game ..... just because AW can't see any further tha his nose ..... i'm sorry he's lost it!

• 06-Aug-2011 22:14 | | Ted  - benfica 2 - 1 arsenal
  

  here comes the same feeling again ..... AW should not even be payed for what he's delivering. i remember those days when arsenal used to conceed first and get back to the game and win it too .... now it's quite the opposite.

• 06-Aug-2011 22:27 | | john
  

  Richie, didnt Ivan and Arsene say there was sufficient funds to buy new players and that it will be a busy summer of SIGNINGS. It wasnt dependent on cl qualification or players being sold or f*****g anything else. How dumb are you. I will repeat it again just for you. IVAN AND ARSENE SAID THE FUNDS ARE THERE TO BUY PLAYERS AND IT WOULD BE A VERY BUSY SUMMER. stop looking for a way out you dumb CLOWN

• 07-Aug-2011 00:55 | | richie  - Pika
  

  You've got a few idea's Pika but remember Roman can and does spend loads of time in Russia. Putin only flew in when Abromovich told him, he'd bought Russia the WC, Roman was Putin's front man for the Fifa deal. I know Boris was the one who privatised Russia's public industries, but Putin as head of the KGB was the power behind the throne. All the Oligarchs were alowed to keep what they'd swindled the Russian people out of as long as they toed Putins line.Those who didn't are in prison, or worse. The bottom line is RA is close to Putin. He's Putins respectfull face in the west.
  
  And Dein tried to pull a "coup de etat" at the board meeting, without informing the other board members of his plans, knowing of Lady Bracewells Smiths intention to sell her shares he intented to buy up those up, sell them and most of his on to Kroenke. Which would've made Kroenke then and there the top man, in repayment Kroenke was gonna make DD the chairman.
  
  The problem for DD was that the board members found out about it before he could pull the move, as DD introduced Kroenke the board voted DD off and he was unceremoniously thrown out of the club. Aparently Danny Fiszman the director and at that time largest share holder, confiscated Deins phones and frog marched him off the premises. His revenge on the board and Arsenal FC was to set up the "Red & White holdings Company" buy up all the shares he could and sell his shares to the company, and sell the company to Usmanov (the Manu'er supporting sleaze).

• 07-Aug-2011 01:30 | | richie  - John Get real! Read between the lines ffs
  

  Imagine you want to sell your car. Do you not give it a full valet first?
  When you post your add do you tell everyone that your baby daughter peed all over the back seat last week? And everytime you open the car your sure you can still smell it. Thats why it now reaks of new car spray smell. Do you say that you've heard a few knocks coming from the engine bay? Or do you truthfully say its passed its MOT its got a full service history and you've never had any problems? Leaving out your worry's and reasons for selling it?
  
  Now imagine your the CE for AFC and with you is the Manager. Barring in mind all the sponsership deals, the merchandising, the corporate boxes, and ordinary ticket sales. (That all depend on the players in the team). When asked by Tom Dick or Harry Journo is there enough money in the kitty to buy new exciting player's you said. Well no not really before we can buy anything more expensive than a few kids and maybe we'll be able to squeeze in one more single player as long as he don't cost more than 10 mil-ish. Anything more than that we'll have to sell big time before we can buy.
  
  I put it to you John you being so smart, that neither of the above would last long in their jobs, just like you, if you were a truthfull second hand car salesman who wanted to point out all the pitfulls of buying the product your selling. Next time your after a dumb clown John find a mirror.

• 07-Aug-2011 10:21 | | John
  

  After reading your reply richie, you,re a bigger clown than i thought. The money is there, always was there , so stop looking for excuses.

• 07-Aug-2011 10:48 | | pika
  

  hahaha ...sorry john ..i didnt realise you were an accountant for arsenal fc
  
  even if the money is there ..why spend it ..we can get what we want without wasting money like idiots ..just hold tight and keep patient or is that too much to ask ?
  
  well then ...that means you have the problem mate ...certainly not arsenal

• 07-Aug-2011 12:54 | | john  - defies belief
  

  " even if the money is there, why spend it"
  This is the type of comment that prove that this site has the dumbest wankers ever to come on an arsenal blog. It really defies belief at times how thick and lacking in intelligence some people are. what age are you PIKA

• 07-Aug-2011 14:59 | | Man United Killa  - dont bother
  

  Some headsup for you John ..Pika makes some of the most ridiculous comments on here...so don't let his comments get to you ...

• 07-Aug-2011 15:06 | | Man United Killa  - to John
  

  John...you can't find objectivity on this site..it is a Wenger site.why else do you get more thumbs down than ups for actually being objective about the state of the club.trust me if you get one thumbs up for a comment, you are doing great .yep.its that bad....

• 07-Aug-2011 16:09 | | John
  

  Yeah MUK, your right, i just find it hard to believe that some comments can even be as bad as Richies or worse. Its DUMB AND DUMBER then.

• 07-Aug-2011 17:22 | | richie  - like I said "Brain of Britten"
  

  Try the mirror when looking for dumb & dumber! All that comes out of certain sections of the press is Arsenal should buy Arsene must spend. And you follow their lead. When Arsene finds a little gem for no money we don't hear from the likes of you. If it doesn't strike you as strange that very little money has been spent by Arsenal FC since we built our new stadium? No? Then carry on believing there's loads of money in the kitty. If we sell first before we spend any more money will that fact make you think? Or will you just carry on in ignorant bliss?

• 07-Aug-2011 18:05 | | john  - You can do better than that
  

  Very little money spent since stadium, and look at the Arsenal shambles Richie. how many players are injured, and we havnt even started yet. How many times do i have to repeat myself. The money is there, always has been there, and always will be there, its not dependent on cl qualification or selling players. AW and Ivan said the money was there when last season ended, and it will be a busy summer of signings. Ticket prices went up 6.5 . our pre season has been a disaster. there is no belief or passion on the pitch. Arsene is letting the cesc/nasri joke to drag on. Squillacci is confirmed as the worst player ever to put on an Arsenal jersey. Former AKBs have admitted that Arsene is destroying the club and its time for him to go. if we were a villa, everton, sunderland i would accept where we are at but we are not. We are a massive club but the board and the manager have now a small club mentality, focused on finances, youth development and top 4 spot. we have no ambition to win trophies, its a bonus if we do. The board are willing to accept failure on the pitch as long as the book balance is fine. If it takes for us to keep losing to get rid of the deluded lunatic Wenger, so be it.

• 08-Aug-2011 03:14 | | richie  - 15 years of top 4 ain't a shambles
  

  I agree our pre season has been a disaster but why? Because we went on a money grabing promotional tour out east instead of concentrating on pre season. I've explained why none of the top brass can say we ain't got the wedge, check deloitte's assesment of our financial situation for yourself don't rely on pundits who say buy Arsene, Buy British Arsene. What evidence do you provide in support of your madness that Arsene is destroying the club? I've been a Gooner all my life and I can't ever remember us finishing top 4 for 15 years in a row (and I've checked that I'm not wrong we never have before). You must be a recent convert to the cause if you think Squilla is our worst ever player. Every Gooner I know can name 10 worse than Squilla with ease. Your deluded if you call yourself a Gooner and wish we lose so that that'll give you the amunition to get rid of our manager.

• 08-Aug-2011 03:21 | | richie  - I don't need excuses
  

  As with Pika I didn't know you know more than the company of accountants that does all of the football clubs of Europe's books once a year Deloite.

• 09-Aug-2011 00:22 | | richie  - John's not interested in the accounts
  

  Don't you want to dispute the accountancy company that checks the finacial health of all of Europe's football clubs? Deloite. They say our debts as a club (includingis the staium debt) is the fifth highest in the league. But then you've got inside info, right? You know more than the rest of us right John? You know we ain't got the 5th highest debt! You know we ain't gotta sell to buy, you know we've got loads-a-money.

• 09-Aug-2011 03:59 | | Man United Killa  - Richie The Ambitious
  

  John, you must understand Richie.He has a weird way of showing his ambition.15 years of top 4...lol..really?Ok Richie..well played!Can you stop playing now and show some real ambition now?
  And how many cups exactly in 15 years?I know you want to give me that crap about the 49 unbeaten games but that song is beginning to get a l-i-i-i-i-i-tle boring!

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