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Written by Omomo14 on Sunday, 06 November 2011 22:38
4 wins in a role in the league since we last lost to our tiny neighbours at the Lane. After the game the feeling in the Arsenal camp was all doom and gloom, crisis talk everywhere and the talk of finishing outside the top 4 for the first time in Wenger's reign, some even went as far as saying we would be in a relegation battle.
Fast forward to the 7th of November and the mood has definitely changed, we have put together 4 wins in the league, gone through to the quarter final to face Man City in the Carling Cup and are top of our Champions league group ahead of Marseille and Dortmund with 8 points.
To think only some few weeks ago, some fans were asking for the head of Wenger. That in it self, is truly despicable. Where is your f**king faith? In as much as I didn't like the state we were in, i never for once questioned the most successful manager in our history.
I know we aren't there yet but the signs are good. We have climbed from 17th on the log to 7th and are level on point with King Kenny's Liverpool. Our run of 4 straight wins in the league has seen us dispatch Sunderland(3-1), Stoke(3-1), Chelsea(5-3) and West Brom(3-0), a run of wins that Cesc and Nasri couldn't boast of last season.
Our talismanic captain Robin van Persie has been in fine form and is currently leading the goal scorers log with 11 goals. His hat-trick against Chelsea is still fresh in my mind and I really can't help thinking the level he would have been at, had he stayed injury free 2 years back. He is currently on 29 goals in 28 games in the league this calendar year(2011), a feat only bettered by Ronaldo of Real Madrid and Messi of Barcelona.
Only 5 players have gone on to score 30 or more goals in a calendar year in England and RVP looks set to join the gang. The media and their dogs haven't seen anything negative to write about the Arsenal lately, so instead they have come out to tag us as a 'one man team' which is definitely bull crap!!!
After the West Brom game I came across some interesting facts on twitter concerning the 'one man' team bull crap; In the last 5 games, Spurs have had 5 different goalscorers while United have had 6 different goalscorers and Arsenal on the other hand have had 9 different goalscorers. (Via @ArsenalGent)
I actually do not care if we are a 'one man' team, the idea of having some one like RVP is that he is there to bang in the goals and hopefully he continues to do so.
The Verminator has returned from injury and has started our last 2 games which we have gone on to keep clean sheets. He has been paired with both Mertesacker & Koscielny and has done brilliantly with each of them.
Vermaelen in my opinion would always be first to the team sheet along with RVP but who partners him at the back remains Wenger's biggest head ache, a good head ache to have though. Koscielny has been the man on form and single handedly kept our back line together against Chelsea in the first half the other day. Mertesacker has also done well and came in to save the day when things wasn't rosy with his experience and calming influence.
I'm a big fan of Koscielny and Vermaelen combo but sometimes I wonder if they have got the right balance. In my honest opinion the right balance would come from the Mertesacker and Vermaelen partnership. Well its not for me to decide and I'm sure we would see more of our top 3 defenders in league permitting injuries.
Carl Jenkinson is one player some section of our fans love to hate reason because he was bought for a tiny £1m. When Fergie was coughing out £18m for Phil Jones and King Kenny was churning out £16m for Henderson some our fans were expecting Wenger to do the same. What if Wenger had gone on to buy Jenkinson from Charlton for say £10m, then the love from all would have come naturally.... That's just sad!!!
I know Jenkinson didn't help his course with less than average performances against Man UTD and Spurs but we can't brush aside what he has done in some other games. I've seen him dominate Seb Larsson(Sunderland) and Andre Ayew(Marseille), put up fine performances in the home and away tie against Udinese in the Champions league qualifying tie and come out tops just recently against West Brom.
For me, the game against West Brom was his best in an Arsenal Jersey. He dominated the right flank, didn't let Jerome Thomas get a sniff and ventured forward with relative ease. He also put in some wicked** crosses into the box which on a normal day, we have found it hard to come by.
We have just one fullback(Sagna) lagging behind in the 'decent crosses' department and hopefully he learns from the likes of Jenkinson, Andre Santos and Gibbs.
The other day I got into a mild argument with somebody on twitter... He was like he doesn't “know what Arteta brings to the team?” WOW, I was kind of shocked..... It is there for all to see! Like I said a while back, Wenger didn't buy Arteta to replace Cesc and in this current market, you won't see a like for like replacement for Cesc.
Arteta came into Arsenal with a wealth of experience and has formed a solid partnership with Song in the middle of the pack. Arteta keeps the ball well, his short and long passing range is top class and can pass the ball with either foot. His defensive ability shouldn't be understated. He has come into the side and given our midfield a sense of belonging, now Song can venture forward and add to our attack in the final third knowing he has the experience of Arteta just in front of our defence.
We have also started to see the best of Ramsey which is a welcome development. In the past few weeks I've seen him come off the bench to score the winner in the final minutes of the Champions league game against Marseille, put in a brilliant assist for Gervinho against Stoke, also put in a glorious through ball to Gervinho who in turn set up RVP for the 1st goal against Chelsea then against West Brom he disected their defence to put Theo through on goal who couldn't finish but RVP was there to mop up and set us up for all 3 points.
Like I said earlier in my write-up, we aren't there yet but the signs are good which in my opinion is a massive positive, plus we go into the interlul with joy in our hearts for the first time since the season started.
Ok! I'm done for the day... Hope the interlul works for you guys. Bye!!!
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07-Nov-2011 10:24 | | Vikram Singh Negi
Brilliant article.
I like Jenkinson. He is an Arsenal fan. As a RB, he knows he is a defender first. And keeping that in mind, he makes his forward runs.
Against United, we could see him and Theo arguing as they were not used to playing with each other. Now Theo and Carl are beginning to gel, like our team might i add, and are helping each other.
Arteta for me was the best possible person to buy when Cesc left. Not as a replacement like for like but as a replacement in the first team.
Currently there is just one player in this whole world who comes close to replacing Cesc like for like, and we already have him. Rambo.
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07-Nov-2011 11:17 | | jlsgooner - observant article
Arteta has been the stabilizing factor whilst the team was still finding its head after the storm at the start of the season everything else from now on from him will be a bonus especially as this is his opportunity to show the world how good he really is with a good team around him.
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07-Nov-2011 11:58 | | mr h
great article...
As for the one man team thing... who cares, so what, some of the most successful sporting teams have been built around a single player: Bulls, Jordan, Lakers, Bryant, New England Patriots, Brady, Man U, Ronaldo.
Footy is of course different from Basketball and NFL, however Fergy has time and again built his times around one player who is shining and gotten the most out of that very player.
In many ways, this new look Arsenal team seem to be straight out of Fergies play book: less flair more graft.
There may not be the glamour of Cesc and Nasri, but what we have replaced them with is the endless amounts of effort provided by Arteta and Gerv (not forgetting Chezzer, TV, Cobra, Song, Rambo, TW, for all his critics).
I love the way this new team is putting head down and getting the job done, it is the exact mentality that has been missing from our oft times showboating teams of the past.
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07-Nov-2011 12:16 | | chinie
Def true it's also good to see that Song has improved and has been brilliant on the Midfield. . .I'm not a fan of mertesacker. Jenkinson was good against west brom but I still think I miss sagna on the field
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07-Nov-2011 12:39 | | SA Gunner - SA Gunner
We may miss the Nasri goals from last season but this time last season he had almost completed the useful part of his season !
Do we miss Clichy ? He made about as many defensive mistakes as Santos and added virtually nothing in attack !
Gervinho is beginning to look a very useful player and I'm very impressed with his work rate in defence. He is a better player for the entire season than Nasri who may have slightly more ability, but not application and they are the same age.
Arteta for me is something that we needed even if we had kept Cesc. He is the putty in the midfield which is something Wenger wanted from Denilson but didnt get. Cesc for me is currently the second or third best player in Barcelona so hey, who isnt gong to miss him but at least now we dont have a team where 90 % of all creative play goes via one man. Arteta is calm we lacked.
I will forgive Jenkinson his growing pains because I know where he is headed. Eboue-I never knew where he was headed !
Central defence-I think we have the finest in the EPL !!
The main difference this year for me is the attitude and character of the team-EVERYONE wants to be there and does not want to give up.
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07-Nov-2011 13:03 | | colesy - its not over til its over!
Your article criticises those Gooners (including me) who lamented our poor start to the season and the fact we'd gone backwards over the past few seasons (loosing the likes of Fabregas in the process). You're effectively saying "look at us now!" but may I remind you that we're only 7th (behind the scum) and we've hardly got the big teams in Europe shaking in their boots about meeting us should we qualify for the next stage in the CL. Neither would the Man City 'B' team be too afraid of the QF game in the Carling Cup.
So I say the following. Far enough to all those AKB's out there who are donning a smug smile lately. We're expecting decent points for the rest of 2011 with a fairly easy run of fixtures in the league but lets see how we 'progress' come the end of the season. I cannot see us improving on last season's poor total number of points and that would make yet another season which we have gone backwards. A good patch - yes, have we truly turned the corner?, I'm not convinced.
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07-Nov-2011 13:15 | | MeanLean
"Far enough to all those AKB's out there who are donning a smug smile lately"
What on earth does this mean? Are you saying that another section of Arsenal supporters (such as yourself I assume) shouldn't be content that we are winning games?
So if you are proved correct and we are losing games will you be donning a smug smile?
I do not understand what you are saying. As far as I am aware, Arsenal winning should make Arsenal fans happy regardless of what you think about the management. Is this not the case? Is this why Spectrum goes into hiding when we start winning.
Is supporting the club actually the point anymore or is it being proved right?
That strikes me as a very strange thing (almost a slip) to say.
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07-Nov-2011 13:19 | | pika
thank you for your time and effort - now you may return to your spud forum where alikeminded idiots can agree on presenting arsenal as a club in crisis or whatever rocks your boat.
hardly got the big teams in europe shaking in their boots? lol why when was arsenal ever the kind of club to cause panic to bayerns real madrid barcelonas etc etc? when exactly? it is only under wenger;s tenor that arsenal is considered one of europes top teams.
gone backwards? lol....so utterly fkn clueless.....before wenger we were a cesspot of alcoholics going for the 1-0 victories and in europe we would lose from saragosa with 60mtrs lobs....with wenger we beat ac milans, inter milans, juventus, madrid, barcelonas etc etc ...lol pi55 off you spud troll

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07-Nov-2011 13:20 | | pika
hehehe mean you reckon its one of them two anti-arsenal trolls who abuse your hospitality? i think so ..
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07-Nov-2011 13:22 | | pika
who is tottenham playing in europe again??? oh yes paok salonika and shamrock rovers ...fkn hell ...such heights ...!!!

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07-Nov-2011 13:23 | | colesy
Not a slip and not "going into hiding" either. I'm simply making the point that at the start of the season and especially after the drubbing at Old Trafford, the AKB brigade went quite. The other section of fans were very vocal about Wenger and asking for him to resign etc. Now, after a run of results the AKB mob have found their voices again. I'm simply warning against getting too carried away. Of course EVERY victory for the club should be welcomed and enjoyed- not one single Gooner would surely suggest otherwise? I am not a Wenger fan and I sincerely believe he is taking the club backwards. I accept that in recent weeks whilst RVP single handedly is winning matches for us, that the anti-Wenger brigade has lost some of it's early season voice too.
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07-Nov-2011 13:24 | | colesy - Pika - Grow Up!
Classy. name calling- leave that for the playground son!
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07-Nov-2011 13:31 | | pika
lol telling me to grow up is so rich ....why dont you go back where you came from you spud troll...
whoever disrespects arsenal and wenger is essentially giving me the right to mock him and call him whatever the fUck i want....
bye bye spud troll
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07-Nov-2011 13:33 | | MeanLean
Personally I am not a fan of being lumped into this 'AKB' bracket where everyone is the same because they support the managers vision. At the start of the season I saw that the squad had massive amounts of changes and had to start again (I wrote that at the time) and that it needed time before they clicked
Getting rid of the manager would not have made that transition any smoother, if anything it would have made it far more difficult.
I don't think many are getting carried away, I just think that whilst many were jumping the gun talking about a crisis, some fans like the writer above could see the bigger picture. It is not being smug, it is just about having to listen to a whole load of abuse towards our team and manager.
You have to admit that things are not quite as bad as you thought they were.
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07-Nov-2011 13:42 | | richie
Great article and you hit the proverbial nail on the nut by saying Arteta ain't Cesc's replacement, he's Denilsons replacement. We've got Gervingo in for Nasri (I asked in a resent blog if any Gooners fancied swapping him back for Nasri?) I think Nasri had plenty of potential, but in the almost 4 years we had him he gave us one good season. Gerv gives us a lot more and I'd argue that we've had almost as much from him in half a season as Nasri gave us in his 4.
No team can afford to lose a "Cesc". Creative players of his abilities can be counted on the fingers of 1 hand, but I think Arsene has a midfield player to return who he believe's has the potential to be hugh and is creative enough to grow into that role. Rambo has started to come good (which is a bonus) but we all await "Jacks" return!
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07-Nov-2011 14:10 | | pika
who is this akb you talk about son ? never heard of him...
who is as fickle as to bash his team in august ffs....lol.....you of course...
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07-Nov-2011 14:13 | | pika
I am not a Wenger fan and I sincerely believe he is taking the club backwards. I accept that in recent weeks whilst RVP single handedly is winning matches for us, that the anti-Wenger brigade has lost some of it's early season voice too.
lol this is so contradictory ..you got busted again you poor little spud....
how can any arsenal fan ..not be a wenger fan? he is taking the club backwards? pmsl....mean for gods sake ....lets not value his cr2p with a responce heh ....its obvious this cretin hasnt got a clue what backwards and forwards is ......

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07-Nov-2011 14:18 | | pika
my playground is your brain
you spud troll
the anti-wenger fans of arsenal...ahahahah pmsl..so clueless
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07-Nov-2011 15:32 | | theo vanramshere - Colesy - don't attack your own
Colesy, AKB is an inflamatory term for people who more correctly "Support Wenger more than not". AKB puts people down as being mindless supporters of Wenger. It basically says, there are 2 types of AFC supporters - 1. You 2. Mindless Wenger-supporters.
As an Arsenal supporter, you shouldn't put down your fellow supporters as AKBs.
i'm sure there are mindless supporters on both ends of the spectrum, but the vast majority of supporters whatever their views, have reasons for their viewpoints.
And the "smug smile" line? Really!?
We get it, your opinion is you still want to replace Wenger. Well, most supporters don't. He will be judged at the end of the season as to how well the team did against 3 super-rich teams (MCFC, MUFC and Chelski) and against the rest.
For now, we are allowed to enjoy the fact that the team is doing well and is on the way up after a tough start after semi-rebuilding the team.
Up The Arsenal!!!
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07-Nov-2011 16:02 | | Eric - Why must it be AKB or AMG...why not just Arsenal F
I am always saddened when people feel necessary to divide the club into AKBs and AMGs ...
Constructive criticism should be just that...constructive...Boo-ing your own
As for the club going backwards...that itself does not make sense and shows a lack of appreciation into how the EPL and football as a whole (business, game strategy ,etc..) is changed and has changed..The club is not going backwards, the club itself is not going backwards (stadium, properties,share price,etc..anyone ?) , THE SQUAD is going through a period of transition..Am not sure how hard is that to understand..I'd rather not write an essay on issues of the summer etc..(if you want I would do some other time) but I believe the squad/club got caught in a 'perfect storm' situation...THe players we have now are willing to fight and work rather well together..The defence is stabilizing AND THE WHOLE TEAM has embraced the principles of collective defending...Sure there are improvements to be made but I would not say it is a hopeless case and that we are worse off than last season...We wont Know that until March next year...
Before then I do what most others have decided to do (rightly in my eyes) I support, acknowledge the team's failings in a clear objective manner (and not a rash illogical one)...That doesnt make me AKB but an arsenal supporter (no one person is bigger than the club)...
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07-Nov-2011 16:04 | | Eric - correction
Meant to say *Booing your own players is poor form in my book*
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07-Nov-2011 16:34 | | pika
well eric you see..we have people here who say they are arsenal fans (lol) and they label whoevever supports his team and manager as akb you see.....
these people have been suffering for so many years watching arsenal and wenger;s back ..them poor lot down the pi55lane

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07-Nov-2011 16:37 | | pika - we are not his own and he is not our own
you see he can not explain his views and prefers to tag us with the term akb whenever he gets stuck ...feano richie and others have been having field days with him ..
i love wathicn spud trolls like him suffering...hehehe ..look at him hahahaah " the team is going backwards" ...ahahahah ...what a tool !
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07-Nov-2011 21:25 | | dkgooner
"Is supporting the club actually the point anymore or is it being proved right?"
You hit the nail firmly on the head here, ML.
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08-Nov-2011 19:11 | | colesy
Pika, just because not everyone agrees with your teenage opinions means that they are fake Gooners and actually Spurs supporters. I have been an Arsenal fan since 1978, travelling from Bristol to London to watch matches. I understand you're not capable of sensible dialogue so I guess we'll leave it that we don't share the same opinion. By the way, AKB stands for Arsene Knows Best and its been used for quite some years on various blogs.
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08-Nov-2011 19:13 | | colesy
Pika, How little you know! The club will exist (just as it did before 1996) after Wenger goes. As a supporter of the club, I support AFC. I used to support Wenger - I just don't anymore. I'd like for you to explain exactly how Wenger has taken the club forward over the past 3-4 seasons.
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08-Nov-2011 19:17 | | colesy
Pika, seriously pal, you aren't doing yourself any favours or winning friends. You make yourself come across as a twelve year old who still thinks its clever to be disrespectful. You slam anyone who doesn't share your exact opinion rather than engage in sensible adult debate. You should find a different forum if you not able to have a sensible discussion.
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08-Nov-2011 19:23 | | colesy
I never called any supporters of Arsenal "Mindless" and that's only you're interpretation of the term "AKB". My interpretation by the way is that it stands for those supporters who remain loyal to the man and continue to believe in everything he stands for. I know many long standing Arsenal supporters who continue to back Wenger and who are middle aged, decent individuals with good jobs and come from a well educated background. Mindless is not a phrase I've ever used or would consider using.
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08-Nov-2011 19:25 | | colesy
Pika- please refer to my explanation below. Your feeble teenage style name tagging would be amusing if it weren't so sad.
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08-Nov-2011 19:30 | | colesy
ML - Of course I am happy when the club does well. It's not so simplistic to view the individual match results. I'm looking at the club over a period of several seasons and the fact that we have (probably) scored less points, conceded more goals and lost more games than this stage last season. We finished last season with less points, conceded more goals and lost more games than the whole of the previous season. That to me - is not progress. Not making progress = going backwards is it not?
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08-Nov-2011 22:30 | | pika
and who told you that my aim is to have sensible discussions with people like you who make no sense ?
i spot you from a mile away you foollish little spud troll
and dont call me pal...cheers
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08-Nov-2011 22:32 | | pika
My interpretation by the way is that it stands for those supporters who remain loyal to the man and continue to believe in everything he stands for.
ehmmm do you know what he stands for then?
and why dont you explain why its wrong to believe in what he stands for?
lol....enjoy making yourself look like an idiot once again rectum ..

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08-Nov-2011 22:40 | | pika
I used to support Wenger - I just don't anymore
lol..well thats your problem mate ..youre the one with the little brain and the inability to comprehend his genius work for arsenal.
but since you prefer to show ingratitude instead of support and prefer to moan and complain like a knitting nanny then why cant i laugh at you ?
and to end this nonsense with you ..what wenger inherrited and what wenger will leave behind is the difference youd normally find at a club in a span of a century and not a mere 15-20 years period.....peeasants like you are not allowed to doubt professionals like him. ..critisise him? lol youre having a laugh mate...sit down son...
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09-Nov-2011 12:51 | | Eric - backwards is too absolute an assessment to make !
Again there needs to be a distinction between the CLUB and the SQUAD...and I would argue that in both cases it has not gone backwards...
The Club (which again encompasses everything from training facilities, academy,purchasing power, stadium,political status within the UEFA) has definitely not gone backwards...like it or lump it most clubs have realised that a sustainable model is the way to ensure survival ...a tricky act to do and it would be v sily not to acknowledge that the CLUB Arsenal has been used by many as an example amongst others such Bayern M, Barcelona,etc..
Which brings me into the next point, Arsenal like it or lump it is still considered a big club with an established presence in UEFA, a brand of football which whether you choose to believe it or not has a distinctive Brand (How many people do you say they play the Arsenal way?) - So again the club could not have gone backwards
As for the squad, it has and is going through a period of transition...Last season it competed on all fronts until April (even though we had injuries,etc..)..Last season we conceded goals too and our form was not consistent..Sure we have excellent quality when everyone was on form but that was not always consistent..This year so far (bar the terrible start), the team seem to be alot more solid, like it or lump there is greater depth and competition for positions (an indicator of squad quality) AND most importantly the players want to play and have began to EMBRACE collective defending...very important in this wave of football (where refs are being stricter on tackles)...What also is an argument in the squad improvement is the various options in our Offensive strategies...there is a subtle differences when playing Gvinho (on form) vs Arshavin(if on form)...or Rosicky(on form) to Walcott(on form),etc...That again is a mark of squad improvement...
As for the performances, it is early to tell but it appears to me that we are alot more solid and alot fitter (makes a big difference when defending collectively) thus the results will follow...
Using early season stats to make a point is quite premature and lends it itself to SKEWED conclusions...
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09-Nov-2011 12:57 | | Eric - Backwards ..? not so sure
Again there needs to be a distinction between the CLUB and the SQUAD...and I would argue that in both cases it has not gone backwards...
The Club (which again encompasses everything from training facilities, academy,purchasing power, stadium,political status within the UEFA) has definitely not gone backwards...like it or lump it most clubs have realised that a sustainable model is the way to ensure survival ...a tricky act to do and it would be v sily not to acknowledge that the CLUB Arsenal has been used by many as an example amongst others such Bayern M, Barcelona,etc..
Which brings me into the next point, Arsenal like it or lump it is still considered a big club with an established presence in UEFA, a brand of football which whether you choose to believe it or not has a distinctive Brand (How many people do you hear say they play 'the Arsenal way'?) - So again the club could not have gone backwards. Sure the wage structure poses problems but again i wouldnt say that limits us our attractiveness to external players
As for the squad, it has and is going through a period of transition...Last season it competed on all fronts until April (even though we had injuries,etc..)..Last season we conceded goals too and our form was not consistent..Sure we have excellent quality when everyone was on form but that was not always consistent..This year so far (bar the terrible start), the team seem to be alot more solid, like it or lump there is greater depth and competition for positions (an indicator of squad quality) AND most importantly the players want to play and have began to EMBRACE collective defending...very important in this wave of football (where refs are being stricter on tackles)...What also is an argument in the squad improvement is the various options in our Offensive strategies...there is a subtle differences when playing Gvinho (on form) vs Arshavin(if on form)...or Rosicky(on form) to Walcott(on form),etc...That again is a mark of squad improvement...
As for the performances, it is early to tell but it appears to me that we are alot more solid and alot fitter (makes a big difference when defending collectively) thus the results will follow...
Using early season stats to make a point is quite premature and lends it itself to SKEWED conclusions...
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12-Nov-2011 07:22 | | colesy - why the immature name calling?
just answer the question Pika- which I'll repeat for you seeing as you can only read what you want to read.
" I'd like for you to explain exactly how Wenger has taken the club forward over the past 3-4 seasons."?
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12-Nov-2011 07:34 | | colesy
listen pal, if you want to accuse people who are probably three times your age (seeing you appear to be twelve) of being something they are not, then don't expect them not to react or defend themselves. anyway, what's wrong with 'pal' - throughout all of your childish replies, you insist on rolling out "spud troll" etc - and youre offended by the term "pal"??!!
anyway, at least you showed you're true intentions to everyone.
"and who told you that my aim is to have sensible discussions"? - I don't know why you and and others claim that those people who no longer believe that Wenger is taking the club forward are slagging off AFC etc and causing division within the ranks of supporters. I have my opinion and I'm entitled to it. I realise that what I believe isn't share by everyone - but I am happy to discuss the matter with others. You on the other hand seem only capable of playground taunting and have a clear agenda to cause division and act like the right to support the club belongs to only people like you??
I am not sure that comments like those you keep rolling out and the intentions you display are what the author of this blog really wants- but that's for ML to decide and comment on.
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12-Nov-2011 07:36 | | colesy
Pika, actually no, I don't know what Wenger stands for these days- perhaps you'd like to share your wisdom with us all???
(I shalln't hold my breath!)
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13-Nov-2011 03:12 | | richie - I am a life long Gooner 50+ and a proud AKB
Not so clolsy in fact all of us so called AKB were all on this blog defending both club and manager after the Manu'er game, even attempting to defend the board at times. Firstly I'm not a fan of name calling, but I'd just like to answer a question posed. We as a club have thus far not gone backwards under Arsene Wenger, in point of fact never in our clubs long 125 year history have we ever stayed in the top 4 with this degree of regularity and that alone marks Wenger out as our most successful manager. Add to that titles Won, Cups aquired and finals reached Wengers miles ahead. Actually colesy your wrong on another point with slight adjustments made to the teams we've played thus far we are ahead on points compared to last season, granted our goal difference is worse this year.
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14-Nov-2011 10:27 | | pika
since you admit yourself that you dont know what he stands for then what and why are you slating him for? do you even know ? lol .......
and know i dont wanna share anything with you mate ...i know what he stands for and i agree 100% . he stands for ethical football which is governed by common sense ( with regards to economic structure of club) flair and speed (with regards to football style) and a professional ethos parallell to none ( honouring contracts, not slating his players, showing faith in their ability and talent).
you probably think that a succesful manager is someone like ferguson ....lol.....yes he is succesful but what does it take for him to be succesful? ..... LOTS AND LOTS OF MONEY.....heres another one for you....wenger doesnt stand for that ...i.e winning with your cheque book. you can f*ck off now back to the cave you cralwed out from my silly little spud troll
...go cheer for van de f@rt who will be crying come may like the rest of you..

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14-Nov-2011 10:35 | | pika
lol to hell with you and your age ..your age doesnt mean anything to me , in fact its worse if youre 3 times older than me and cant see what a fantastic manager and professional this arsene wenger is.
and dont call me pal you spud troll ....
im offended that a totnehm little roddent like you can feel any conection to us ...
my intenions are to smoke you out and im doing pretty good
and f*ck your opinion...your opinion means shit in the grand scheme of things...i dont offer my opinion ., neither does richie or mean lean or anyone else....none of us is in any position to know the EXACT FACTS to form an opinion anyway. i follow arsenal and the work of arsene wenger. why? cause his values and arsenals values represent the way i look at football. i dont have to offer my opinion about anything, i just support in the knowledge and cionviction that my club is run by one fo the best managers in the history of world football. and just like i cant offer my opinion on scorseze;s directing skills, likewise id consider myself an idiot if i thought i could offer my opinion about running football clubs... shhhhhh now....go to bed.
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14-Nov-2011 10:57 | | pika
and as for mean lean...mean lean has set up his site to support his team his manager and his pl;ayers ...and youre abusing his hospitality under the disguise of "offering your opinion" ...pmsl....
trying to get him involved to defend you from me bashing you is not gonna work mate.
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16-Nov-2011 13:00 | | colesy
I suppose the difference is in the analysis. You seem to chose to gloss over the immediate issues and harp on about 15 years in the CL, historical top 4 finishes (will that soon become top 6 or top 7 finishes to suit the arguement?), nice shiney new stadium etc. What I am more concerned with is the declining position on the field and as demonstrated by the results/league table.
I did laugh though when you made "slight adjustments made to the teams we've played thus far we are ahead on points compared to last season". You can argue that things haven't gotten worse because of who we played compared to which teams we faced up to this stage last season- because both Arsenal and the opposition have changed their squads/formations etc. Nice try though.
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16-Nov-2011 13:03 | | colesy
trust you to stick with your immature name calling. look pal, there's no decent argument to had with a fake fan like you.
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16-Nov-2011 13:05 | | colesy
ha ha pal, sounds like you are worried ML will do the decent thing and boot you off his blog. hope that happens- theres no room for your playground manner here or anywhere.
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26-Nov-2011 06:41 | | TivvyGoons - Basically
You guys are mad! We should all be drinking together after after watching our fine team on a weekend. I do and always will love Wenger. Anyone who says he is not the man for the job is being hasty. You love this club like I do and I understand that you are frustrated about the lack of trophies. But before you point the finger consider this. Before Wenger, Arsenal in the modern(ish) English game were not exactly a great deal to shout about. Let us contrast this with Liverpool-A great team throughout the 80s who have produced few moments for the fans to get excited about in the last 15 years, under countless different quality management. All I am saying is if you had to pick a defining era for this club within the modern game (things are severely different both on and off the pitch). It would undoubtedly be Arsene's. Im not the longest serving Arsenal fan at the youthfull age of twenty but my generation is one of luckiest. We will forever remember our time as youngGuns growing up. Learning the beautiful game by watching this beautiful team and I can assure you that when im older my children and their children will have heard so much about the Wenger era they'll want to chop their own ears off. For me and so many others my age, this part of the clubs history will forever symbolise the excitement of waking up on a saturday full of excitement for the days kick off. It will always represent running around in the park with your friends pretending to be Bergkamp. That is why I will always love Wenger.
PS Colesy about the no progress in the last 3-4 years.... you might well be right... but football isnt played over 3-4 seasons. It's played game by game season by season and I can't think of any reason why we should dwell on spilt milk rather than looking forward to the next 20 years of magic and joy this club will give us. Wether under Wenger, Guardiola(?) or maybe even and Henry and Bergkamp on a manager and assistant duo hype.
PPS im not stating that these will DEFINATLY be great managers if it ever happens but if they're ever are and it does.... holy shit, I just came thinking about it.
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