he said he will change starting lineup.

i think at front VanPersie will rest for first half. so Park Chu Yaung . Walcott and Ashavin will start.

at midfield there will be Arteta , Song, Rosicky . i don't want ramsey tosee starting line up.

at the back four and goalkeeper are as usual.

Gunner

It's telling and wording in equal measure that we are relieved a team that has been bottom most of the year are missing two players. What have we come to.

That was meant to be worrying at the same time. Really concerned about this team

I think TR7 just cant play twice in 3 days.That is why he did not start at Bolton.
So I was not the least bit surprised.

brdgunner,moaning and winging.is that what fans have come to?Do you get no joy from the game?

Think your line up and rotation makes sense but very much doubt arsene would go for a midfield 3 that to my knowledge have never started together. I would like to see le coq start at left back with the verm and koz back together taking turns to drive forward. Keep song in and let rambo sit on the bench giving rozza a chance to drive forward. That way the welsh wonderkids energy could be used later in the game, something i think would work for theo once in a while too

Myanmargunner-as for leaving rvp on the bench... Im not really sure thats even worth commenting on

having said all of this i would be shocked if AW makes any changes from the last game if the ox is fit (which i really hope he is)

4 - 1 win for the boys today

I will take 7 oh wait we talk about points

Good Win.Long Overdue

Great win today. We were long overdue for a good spanking of mid table to bottom teams. From start to finish, we dominated possession and for once we converted most of our chances. I hope we can keep it up like this until the end of the season. Song was great as a defensive midfielder cum playmaker with fantastic Cesc-like through balls, van Persie was sublime, Chamberlain was superb, and Rosicky was great. I have been crying for weeks for Wenger to start Rosicky ahead of Ramsey and he finally listened. Rosicky is always looking to drive the team forward at every opportunity whereas Ramsey just slows the game down with too many touches, unnecessary dribbles, etc... Good job, TR7. Keep it up. Robin could have scored 4 goals today but instead, unselfishly opted to gift Henry his 228th goal for Arsenal with virtually the last kick of the game. What a great player and teammate! I love playing with guys like that.
So 7-1, 2 points off Chelsea for 4th, I hope Man U can do us a favor tomorrow, and Spurs and Liverpool get draw. That would make my entire week.
Up the Arsenal!

Firstly, apologies.

This was written by Omomo14 and not myself.

Secondly. Great stuff by the boys today. When I look at our team, this is what I see and not what we have seen in recent weeks

Theo was incredible today. Direct and dangerous and it is down to him to produce that more often.

Coquelin superb again. Always impresses me. RVP is RVP, the best.

But Mr Oxlade of the Chamberlain. *shakes head* this boy will be something else, that's for sure. He is only 18 years old.

Great work, more of that from now until the end please Arsenal.

@ Mean Lean,

And to think that when Arsene bought Chamberlain last Summer, a section of the Arsenal fanbase were sneering at the purchase, asking why yet another youngster was being bought, as if they knew better.

Are you sure he is 18years old? Because he seems to have been playing the game longer than that.At 18, he has ball sense that Walcott will never have.His 2 finishes are screaming evidences of this.Composure!

Great result, yes. Enjoyed by every supporter, yes. First league win of 2012, yes. Against 10 man Blackburn Rovers, yes.

Before all the AKB's swamp this site with smug comments, lets enjoy the moment sure, but lets not get too excited (that includes you Pika- put that poster of Wenger down!) about this victory. Let's see how we fair in the next match and the match after that. We have some tricky games coming up. The season has been full of plenty of 'ups and downs' and yesterday was clearly an 'up'. But overall, our position and season has been disappointing so far. One swallow doesn't make a summer!

I have heard comments like that from you, Spectrum, Man United Killer and others in the past. I really dislike and do not understand it.

It is the comment that I expect to hear from a Tottenham fan and is the type of comment that friends of mine from rival clubs say.

"Yeah, you might of played well and done well but don't get carried away with yourself and don't get all smug because we are higher in the league than you" etc etc

Are you trying to tell me that we shouldn't enjoy, debate and feel good about a great performance and result? Interesting that you link supporters to enjoy a good 'Arsenal' result as AKB's. Very revealing I would say.

'One swallow doesn't make a summer!'

If this is the case, why do you watch the games? Why do you read blogs? As football fans, shouldn't we just not watch any of the games or talk about the highlights and just check the results at the end of the season, then we can decide whether to be smug or not.

Or as supporters of the club and team, well I am anyway. Should we chew over the low's and enjoy the high's every week?

You do it your way but I will act smug and enjoy the good times.

It is amazing how closely you resemble my Tottenham supporting mate.

Colesy - You took the words right out of my mouth. Beat me to it. I had a feeling we would have a good solid win yesterday. In fact, I thought we would win 5-1, with Robin getting at least a couple. Turns out we got two more than I thought, and Robin got a hat trick, and could have had a fourth, if he hadn't unselfishly passed to Thierry.

I would have been surprised if we HADN'T won comfortably. The pointers were there. Blackburn struggling near the bottom of the ladder, having a poor away record, and us with a fairly strong home record, having only conceded 8 goals at the Emirates. Robin in hot form still, and as he hadn't scored for a while, I thought he'd be "due", and likely to exploit the weak Blackburn defence. And so it proved. We performed well, but .A.K.B.'s, remember that this was against a side who were poor defensively - ( the first three goals were tap ins ) - and they were a man short for the entire second half. ANY team in these circumstances would be EXPECTED to win, and likely score a bundle.

Also bear in mind, that ONLY THE WEEK BEFORE, we played another relegation threatened team in Bolton, and only managed to draw with them - a team with also one of the worst record for goals conceded. Not only couldn't we get the ball in the net, we were lucky we didn't lose. So yes, I'm pleased we won, and the result was a boost for our goal difference, which could be crucial for that top 4 " trophy " , but as I've said before and will keep saying - it's results over the LONG TERM i.e. the end of the season, that determines how good we actually are.

Oh, and Robin ? Well with us not buying any quality players AGAIN, and as a result showing no INTENT to seriously win things, what message will that be giving him ? Do you think he'll stay ? Did Wenger and the board take this factor into account ? If I were him, I'd be packing my bags. If he stays put, then he'd be throwing away any remaining chance in his career of winning anything.

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lol mean lean ahahaha ....why dont you tell them two to come with their black bin bags and collect your garbage ...

thats all theyre good for ahahahah

ML, I simply suggested that we should not get too excited. too carried away. If you want to get excited over yesterdays win and 'believe' we have turned the corner, then I praise your optimistic view but I would suggest it's misguided optimism. each to their own. that's why sites which relate to my club are so infectious.

I know I am on the opposite side of the supporters fence to you and others like PG, Rich, etc. But Arsenal is MY club. It is my passion and that's why I want to my judgements and pass comment.

Back in your hole Golum.

wheres your black bin bag ?

Colesy - How long have you been a Gunners fan ? Me ? Since the 26th May 1989. No need to tell you what was special about that. Those days of thrilling memories are sadly gone. Hard to be optimistic about the future for the club, whilst we have a section of so called supporters, who have formed a personality cult around their father figure, and have elevated him above the interests of the club itself. Quite frankly that disgusts me, and likely you too. And yet they accuse US of not being the real fans. One day and hopefully soon, we'll be rid of the man who causes this division, and we can all be as one again.

" In Arsene we trust."

1978 when I was 7 years old. So I've supported through the good times & very good times and the bad.

I'm with you Spectrum. The right to an opinion is ours. This clubs is ours -we chose it, not the other way around. No matter how low our club sinks, we shall care about Arsenal forever.

The trouble with AKB's like ML and the others is that they think Wenger is unquestionably the best manager that exists and can never be replaced and for that sole reason, they do not believe it is possible to consider life without him in charge. I believe he has fallen from the dizzy heights of the double winning seasons and for the past 6 or so seasons, he has made a mockery of our club, the players, himself and worst of all, the supporters. Yet he is still regarded by some as god.

When people wake up that this is our club NOT Wenger's then the supporters will become more harmonious. I hope that success will follow also.

well he does happen to be, UNQUESTIONABLY, the best manager this club has ever had. or do you object that too?


"when people wake up" ? ....L.M.F.A.O ...... " the right to an opinion" ....haha ...spoken like a true spud

Colesy and spectrum, why dont u both just get it over with by marrying each other..then who knows maybe u can drown each other in ur poison, and leave us gud folks to enjoy a great moment of football for it is.
You both actually sound disapointed that we won... I have the one question for the both of you, what has the fact that we won a game from superior footballing got to do with our next fixtures???..blackburn being a very low standing club or not, if/when u dont play well u wouldnt beat them, so we only won because we played great for 90mins, and playing against ten men was also as a result of our playing well.
And one of you even dared to talk about passion?..thats a laugh really, cos u both obviously dont know the meaning of the word if ur reaction to a win by arsenal is anything to go by.
I would advice you both to keep ur views for when we lose matches -as u both obviously seem to hope we do always, but please, let us fans that feel the need to celebrate every goal(win or lose), every lovely pass(from inform or not so inform players),every win(weither a lucky 1 - 0 or fantastic 7 - 1) to do so in peace, without having the stench of ur negetivity polluting the joy of being a true GUNNER.

You both actually sound disapointed that we won...



nice one tony


of course theyre disappointed ..they support tottenham .

Colesy - If you want to read a really good, honest blogsite - the writer of which is a true realist like us, who thinks and tells it like it is, I can highly recommend Arsenal Truth. The stuff this guy writes is spot on. If you haven't already, do check it out.

WARNING : Arsenal Truth is not for the faint hearted. A.K.B.'s are advised to stay well clear. ( But then, you were always going to anyway, weren't you ) ?

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Tony, read again u idiot. how can I sound disappointed when I wrote "lets enjoy the moment". I would suggest u read what people write before taking the time to reply. It will stop you ending up like pika, lol. Oh theres a thought, why dont u and pika tie the knot and have ML as ur bestman?

If I had a spare one I would put it over you!

ML.By all means lets revel in the victory.And praise players deservedly but dont let act like our problems have suddenly been solved-and let me remind you that performances like this mean nothing if we are not consistent .I am sure Colesy makes a reasonable point.Or do you have a problem with other people having realistic opinions?

lol@Spectrum.Are you kidding? Faint hearted AKB? Aren't all AKBs faint hearted?They dont want to believe that there can be life after their beloved delusional Arsene Wenger.

You know what guys, it has just clicked. You guys have been correct all along. What on earth am I thinking about.

We should be beating teams 7-1 every week. What on earth should we be excited about. It was only Blackburn FFS. Plus they had a man sent off. I actually reckon that if they had 11 men then they would have turned it around.

ARSENAL FANS! Don't talk about this victory because so much wrong also happened. Did anyone see Vermaelen hit the post from a RVP cross? What a joke. Ledley King would have scored that.

Seven goals and Theo didn't even score. WTF!

Let's all head to Arsenal truth to hear the real truth about Arsenal.

I cannot believe I didn't see this all along. I am not even going to write a blog today. Much more enjoyable when we lose.

touchy touchy of ML. did someone hit a nerve?

Colesy, why would i want to read such rubish as you write twice?! One time is bad enough.
you are actually like a kid playing with his -a certain part of the body, fancinating (in a gross kind of way) but without a doubt, totally disgusting.
I wonder what you would do should nobody respond to ur comments here...probably cry all the way home to mama...oh wait, you now have spectrum.

yes your whole brain nerve system got hit when your mom dropped you out her butt in the loo..

the splash caused some malfunction in the wiring .....



now where is that black bin bag again

dont be jealous ...if you promise to be kind we will let you play some passes with Coqelin and get you Frimponged

keep the bag for tommorow;s game ...it may come in handy ..we dont wont you throwing up in front of people

lets see u try spud troll

Killer - Hi mate. Haven't heard much from you on here lately, and with Golum lurking, I don't blame you. Yes, I was being facetious about the "faint hearted " remark of course. None of the A.K.B.'s can grasp the fundamentals of what we're saying, so a straight shooter like Arsenal Truth, would only further upset their devotion to The Dear Leader. Their paranoia is on a par with North Korea.

Interesting though, that many former A.K.B.'s have seen the light and have become realists. But we never see realists converting to A.K.B.'s. What does that tell you ?

" In Arsene we trust."

just paying you in the same currency

its the only currency you understand it seems

arsene fucked you doomers in the ass

next time bring more black bin bags..we will score 14

Wow, this is weird.

My spam filter tells me that Spectrum seems to have many different IP addresses linked to his/her name. Just did a sort on IP and name and there are quite a few here.

The only other one's are actual spam that have been deleted. Scratching my head as to why this is.

Any ideas Speccy?

Tony, Well no-one likes to made a fool I guess!

I'm not fussed whether you read my stuff or not. Who cares what you do?? AKB's like you are in such a deep 'Arsene trance' that you cannot see what's happening to our club.

We are 9 points adrift of what we had achieved after the same number of games last season. Is not not evidence enough???

lol dumbest thing ive ever heard.....if you dont care who reads why come here and spray mean lean;s site with your shit ?

do you have a personal vendetta against him ? lol.....


yes we are in deep arsene trance ......the greatest trance this club has ever known ..

go enjoy your bad tripping elsewhere

is not not evidence enough ?


ahahahhahaa ...whats that there colesy? .... did you choke on something

haahha busted !

I'm not being facetious, I honestly just want to know why.

I guess it's a little plus you begining to realise just how foolish you always sound, there may still be for you afterall.
And i see you're back with the trance line once again, well i think Pika has got a good handle on that, but knowing how much you seem always to miss anything reasonable or possitive...then let me just put it this way; we've kind of exhausted that phrase, how about something new? And do give it ur best shot. Am waiting.

from now on my toilet seat has a name ...colesy it is...and in a gesture of respect i will cover my toilet seat in a black bin bang

Hello. Arshavin will soon be going home. Danny got injured and was out for 8 months .. With our management has no other choice.

Sorry for my English.
Zenit fan.

Golum you muppet. You are consistently showing your teenage years.

No I don't have any vendetta against Tony. I don't know the fella. I do know he is a biased AKB who is not open minded to the simple idea that Arsenal FC can be and is supported by people who possess a mixed bag of ideas. Not everyone is a Wenger loving soul like you.

Tony, try typing your point again- this time without the spelling mistakes and primary school grammar- then I can reply. Thanks mate.

Nice one Golum. That must have taken you all weekend to think up - good one. I hope your mates at school appreciate it.

oh ok sorry ... when i mature ill try and be like you going to blogs of teams i dont support to pretend to be a fan

vendetta against tony ? lol ....obviously the "him" before the question mark refers to meanlean mentioned right above but never mind... its clear wenger messed with your head big time... ...

and you call tony a biassed akb ? ....lol...akb is arsene knows best right ? ...so ..the person who is intelligent enough to understand that pros like wenger arent where they are due to luck and trusts the judgement of that professional, is biassed? ....while the muppet who has a personal dislike of said professional is not biassed ?

some logic that is....maybe you can teach us ....when we get older like you

when you figure out in your tiny brain how the words "biassed" and "akb" dont fit together, put yourself in a black bing bag and go jump inside a trashcan.....where you belong.

ML is soooo sensitive...LOL

Thinking of a name for your toilet seat.You must love spending time there.No wonder you are full of sh*t.

It's just part of being supportive of your football team. I can't really explain it to you.

So what is your take on why your pal Speccy has so many different IP addresses? He was posting quite a few comments until I brought that up and then *poof!!* he vanished.

Interesting, don't you think?

The whole IP address thing is rather interesting. I thought I would do a bit of research and I came across this from Untold Arsenal

"This site has published a lot of material about the AAA, and has come up with rebuttals to many of their claims, along with a fair amount of evidence that the AAA is in fact just a small number of people who use multiple identities on the internet, multiple email and IP addresses and who often copy work from one site and paste it on another. Some have criticised me for giving so much space over to them, but I believe they are an interesting sociological issue worthy of study, and our study has led to some interesting conclusions."

In case you wanted to know what AAA stood for, it is Anti Arsenal Arsenal 'supporters'

Basically people who say that they are Arsenal fans yet have not one good word to say about the club and its employee's.

I stress, that this is different to Arsenal fans that are disgruntled but the one's who hide away when things are going well and find themselves posting a lot when the team isn't doing so well.

It is really interesting. I am going to read up some more on trolling also, apparently it is linked.

It suddenly became even more interesting..

"Troll Spectrum Behavior (version 1.0)"

Check out the name.

http://mybluepuzzlepiece.blogspot.com/2008/04/troll-spectrum-behavior- version-10.html

Coincidence much?

Mr hundreds of IP addresses Spectrum, the good old Arsenal fan who loves the club dearly was found responding to many comments bang in the middle of the Arsenal game against Manchester United. It was 1-1 at the time, my phone alerted me to the collection of comments whilst I was watching the game. His game pretty much ended right there.

It looks like the link doesn't work unless you google search it. Here is the content, copied and pasted.

Monday, April 14, 2008
Troll Spectrum Behavior (version 1.0)

I talk about behavior quite often, here and elsewhere. From elsewhere I want to pull in some comments about a form of dysfunctional behavior online, namely: Troll Spectrum Behavior.

Now, trolls and trolling have a long history on the net. (And in the context of accelerated "Internet time", that's saying something.) Originally the terms "troll" and "trolling" described a kind of deliberate and conscious game. More recently, however, a number of folks have noticed -- and by noticed, I mean, cursed about -- the appearance of people who behave like trolls but who seem to have no insight into their behavior. It's that aspect of the current phenomenon that I think of as "Troll Spectrum Behavior". It seems there's a remarkable number of folks whose uninhibited online behavior is functionally indistinguishable from the old games of trolling for newbies and trolling for suckers. Many of these folks seem to be flying on autopilot, operating "open loop", not learning and thus not communicating.

Since the Legos are already scattered all over the floor, I might as toss these pieces onto the pile. These pieces are from comments at ScienceBlogs.com. First a question posed by another participant:

Here's a question -- is it real trolling if the person actually holds that attitude, or is it real trolling if the person doesn't hold that attitude in reality, but pretends to just in order to get people wound up? Or, are both of those "real trolling", just different flavors?



My reply:

I put "real trolling" in quotes to parallel your earlier use of quotes and to suggest a pun on the commenter's nickname.

But raising a question about the psychology of trolls does strike me as relevant to the original topic. As I recall from back in the days of Internet yore, early on the terms "troll" and "trolling" supposedly signified game-playing behavior, a kind of sport, or sometimes performance art. But it seems to me that was a flimsy cover story from the start. The behavior was unhealthy then and it still is now.

As you suggest, these days I don't really try to distinguish trolling as a supposed game from functionally equivalent harmful behaviors. When Troll Spectrum Behavior occurs, I do think it's important that someone demonstrate a healthier counterexample. Accidental quasi-trolls might learn if offered an opportunity, and some healthy social reinforcement helps to maintain a sense of community. Beyond that, of course, no feeding.

It seems to me Troll Spectrum Behavior might be related to a problem that I see underlying the topic of Zuska's post, and that I see underlying a number of social problems: a widespread inability to perceive harm.

Filtering out perceptions of harm, injustice, exploitation, pain, and suffering; lacking empathy or actively suppressing empathy; ignoring the consequences of our behavior; these things seem like enablers in mechanisms that create further harm. I find that disturbing.



About the same time, the topic came up at another blog within the ScienceBlogs umbrella. There I wrote:

I find no value in trying to distinguish the varieties of Troll Spectrum Behavior (as mentioned recently at Zuska's blog). It doesn't matter to me whether attention-seeking and game-playing behaviors stem from conscious or un/subconscious motivation. The consequences are pretty much the same, so my (lack of) response is pretty much the same.

I do think it's important to demonstrate mature interactions instead. That fosters situations in which social learning can occur. But that doesn't require feeding attention appetites.



(This is a rough draft. Proper links forthcoming...)

i love you pika your so funny when you wind up those muppets

Mean Lean - What bullshit are you spouting ? "MANY" different IP addresses ? I have only ONE. And always have had. Your delusional state is affecting your judgment my friend. My, you are in a bad mood today. The characteristic North Korean paranoia is certainly on display.

Perhaps you actually HAVE been sneaking over to Arsenal Truth for a glimpse of life on the "other side". Once the reality that you've been misled and deceived all these years by The Dear One, dawned on you, you now feel the need to lash out. Understandable, but help is available. Rehabilitation needs to be gradual to avoid going into a state of shock.

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Mean Lean - Ah, NOW I can see why you think that. When I'm not at home on my OWN computer, I use the Internet Cafe in town to check my emails, surf the net, and of course, when I get a spare moment, to check and reply to posts on here. In fact that's where I am right now as I type this. Nothing suspicious or untoward - it's normal practice for many people nowadays. But as I said, with your paranoid A.K.B. mentality, you have jumped to the wrong conclusion in your haste to attack me. Do I get an apology now that you've made a fool of yourself ?

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Mean Lean - You can rationalise all you want about me and other realists. You refuse to see that other Gunners can love the club, but not condone the mismanagement of it. And that mismanagement is so clear to see that to not recognise it , is to live in denial. You can take comfort and refuge in your silly trolling accusations against me, if it makes you feel better. I've told you my explanation, not that I feel obliged to, as your complete lack of objectivity makes it a waste of time.

Incidentally, my despising Wenger is not limited to him. If ANY future boss came in and performed as poorly as he has, then I would respond accordingly. Any true Arsenal supporter who cared, would and should, do no less.

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Tony - One of the characteristics of being in a hypnotic state, is that the person involved is unaware of when he drifted into it. And often denies he was even in it.

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Mean Lean - " It's just part of being supportive of your football team. I can't really explain it to you."

Exactly. That's why I'm a realist and you'll always be an A.K.B.

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Mean Lean - Grow up, and stop altering the words of my posts. Changing the " r " to a " t " is the sort of thing we'd expect from a schoolkid like pika, not a ( presumably ) grown man such as you.

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pika - You're the muppet, because you don' t even see any problems that need solving. " Ignorance is bliss" must have been your favourite saying when you were a kid. Ooops ! Did I say "when" you were a kid ?

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Mean Lean - It may come as a revelation to you, but there are actually a large number of free thinkers out there. But in your closed minded A.K.B. world, that concept is hard to imagine for you I suppose. Anyone who comes on here and dares to identify the continual mistakes and inaction of the management ( INCLUDING the board, of course ), is branded a traitor and / or a ............ or a .......... or a ........... ( fill in the blanks ) supporter.

Maybe it's a case of " if you don't like the message, shoot the messenger."

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"Troll spectrum behaviour " ? Ha ! Obviously an inventive title to fit your viewpoint. The coincidence factor ......? ....... Could be to do with the Untold Arsenal site that you draw this "info." from, also happens to be an A.K.B. site, like your own.

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Pika, one of your school mates?

whatever problems exist i trust the superior management of arsenal to deal with them.

i aint some weak arsehole like you to throw my toys out when things dont go our way

heheheh look all the turds are gathering .....

free thinkers ? ahahahhaah

hahahh fry him ....fry that bas tard troll

the more they come the more fun we will have

Obviously an inventive title to fit your viewpoint.

hahah a bit like " in arsene we rust" huh......

B.U.S.T.E.D

what a lying hypocritical turd you must be ..... true spud !

well spud troll ...doesnt the fact you despise wenger ( your words not mine) make your opinion NON VALID as its compromised by your bias !





please talk more ...give me more ammo to disgrace you

Nice win from the Gunners. It's a long time coming.

@ Gooner80 tell that to spectroll and his mate colesh*t.
@ Colesy, the issue being discussed here is a 7 - 1 win, so why cant you just focus on that for the moment and leave ur doom mongering one time?
You have ur own opinions, and believe AW is a bad coach, alright, so why not wait for when he actually lose' a game? Instead u come after a great win to inform us of how all you see is doom for the club?
Truly sorry you dont understand my comments -due to my poor grammer and bad spelling ofcourse, but i still think you have a medical disorder; an inability to discern anything reasonable, possitive, and truthful. I feel a great pity for you.

Again Tony, you didn't bother to read my stuff before making a complete fool of yourself. I welcomed the victory but simply warned against street party style celebrations.

I don't see the link between Arsenal winning or losing and my opinion that Wenger is no longer a great manager. I hold that view now just as I did at the pre-season stage and just as I did throughout the whole of last season. I hold that opinion regardless of our results as I look at the season as a whole, not necessarily game by game.

So keep your pity for yourself and all the AKB's.