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Written by Mean Lean on Monday, 03 October 2011 10:13
Four defeats in our first seven games of the season does not bode well for a new team that are desperately trying to cling onto momentum and any bits of confidence that they had. Unfortunately for Arsenal, we are just not getting the rub of the green at the moment. Having said that, Tottenham's first goal had nothing to do with bad luck. Three officials on the pitch did not see or chose not to see van der Vaart's raised arm to control Adebayor's lofted pass and the Dutchman's finish across Szczesny was clinical.
This is not to excuse the Arsenal defence which allowed van der Vaart the time and space to ghost into the box unattended. Whoever was supposed to pick up van der Vaart who already has a rather annoying habit of scoring against us, is equally to blame as the officials.
We had already wrestled control of the game and kept the ball better than the home team who had adopted a very attacking team from the start. With the players we had available, I was very happy with the starting 11. We had worked a number of crossing opportunities without putting in the needed quality, or not enough players getting into a dangerous area in the box to convert a cross.
Theo Walcott was very subdued and his only real contribution was to have a deflected left footed shot wide and a long range bobbling shot that was easily saved. Gervinho on the other side was a little more dangerous but was not able to link up with his team mates in the box. He was presented with a great chance to score after some great feet by van Persie on the right side of the pitch, his cut back to the Ivorian was perfect but Gervinho miscued wide.
In big games like that, you simply have to score. That situation reminded me of the Henry and Pires combination of old. Two players full of confidence, Henry bursting past the full back and having the vision to pick out the player and Pires striding in without any doubt in his mind to side foot in, followed by a running pointing celebration.
Gervinho does not look like a man who knows he is about to score, that is the difference. This Arsenal team are not playing with swagger that is needed to win big games.
Typically it was moments later where Tottenham opened the scoring. The defence had shifted towards their left. Alex Song went out to meet Adebayor while both Gibbs and Mertesacker drifted towards Defoe, Sagna usually so good at spotting danger did not react to van der Vaart pealing off at the back unattended. Mertesacker should have also left Gibbs to deal with Defoe. Once again our defence were working well individually, especially Mertesacker who was making some fantastic tackles but collectively we made errors, and it cost us.
van der Vaart had already been booked for a late challenge on Gibbs, then he ran to the home support to hug them. Whether you think the rules are stupid or not, they are the rules and when a player does that they are supposed to be booked for doing so. Mike Dean decided not to stick to these rules on this occasion for a reason that I cannot quite fathom. This is not a case of seeing an incident or not, either you stick to the rules or you don't, if you do not then there should be an explanation as to why the change of heart.
We can all pick holes in the Arsenal performance but why should we just have to put up with game changing decisions going against us repeatedly?
Francis Coquelin has obviously been doing very well at London Colny behind closed doors as he was chosen ahead of Emmanuel Frimpong as Alex Song's replacement. The boy was one of the few positives in a frustrating afternoon. His timing of the tackle is fantastic and he shut out Modric on many occasions. He moved the ball around effortlessly and he also slotted in between the center backs to make vital clearances at important times. If he manages to continue those types of performances then he will soon make it very difficult for Arsene to drop him. Aaron Ramsey was having the opposite effect.
Ramsey was having a very poor game. Misplacing far too many passes, holding onto the ball for too long. He was also not able to make that creative difference when it mattered. The young Welshman is very gifted and has already shown his talents this season but it is too much to expect consistency and quality in such a vital part of the pitch. The attacking midfield position was the area I really wanted Wenger to go out and buy someone a little special. A game changer, a player that can win a game on his own. For whatever reason, we were not able to get that player in and it has cost us.
We are no longer relying on one playmaker which makes us less predictable but it also means that we are isolating van Persie too often because we no longer have a continuous link between the midfield and our three forwards. Players like Cesc Fabregas, Xavi Hernandez, David, Silva and Mario Götze do not grow on trees but for our football to work offensively, I feel we are going to need someone to step up and rack up a number of assists otherwise we will continue to dominate games, without making anywhere near enough chances to score goals.
Aaron Ramsey did pull a goal back after the break. It was the type of goal that we have been crying out for. Midfielders making runs into the box to connect with a gambled low cross. It was the type of goal that Manchester United score so often and the type that we should score much more. Song drove up the left from center back and his left footed cross was turned in from close range.
We were in the driving seat, we had equalised and we should have used that to have gone on to win the game. Instead of turning the screw, we dropped off. We allowed Tottenham back into the game and that should have been the last thing that should have happened. Szczesny made a wonderful close range save to deny Adebayor to go along with two fantastic first half saves from Parker and van der Vaart.
We had dominated them in the second half and once we scored we eased off, Redknapp then added another midfielder to replace van der Vaart who was a passenger in the second half and that gave the home side the advantage.
Kyle Walker unleashed a low swerving shot that went through Szczesny. The Pole had made far more difficult saves during the game but he could not stop the easiest of the lot which just sums us up right now. We have the quality to cause teams problems but one slip and we are punished. The goal would have been prevented had we picked up a simple throw in the build up. Mikel Arteta lost his man and tried to pass him onto someone else but nobody reacted and Sandro's cross lead to the goal.
Mistake on the throw, mistake on the shot punished.
To make a sour afternoon far worse, Bacary Sagna was taken off on a stretcher after our right back sustained a fracture to the fibula in his right leg. He is now expected to be out for three months which is just truly dreadful news.
I was hoping to see our strongest squad available after the International break but that is just not going to happen because during the time it takes players to recover, the chances are that we will suffer other major injuries. This has been the case for far too long and we are not going to get any better when this keeps happening. The blame for Sagna's injury cannot be directed at anyone, it is just the norm for us right now.
Tottenham could have added to their two in the last 15 minutes. Gareth Bale and Jermaine Defoe all coming close to making it the 3-1 that everyone told me it would be before kick off.
Even with Mertesacker playing as an emergency striker in the last few minutes, the home side held on with relative ease and the problems at Arsenal continue. Last season's team would have won that game and that is what is difficult to swallow. We are not yet as good as the side that hit their purple patch last season.
Time for the squad to regroup once more and try to get it right. Because we cannot afford to continue to lose games at this rate.
Man of the match: Francis Coquelin
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03-Oct-2011 10:46 | | MeanLean
Currently that wouldn't actually surprise me.
When Koscielny or Vermaelen come back then I would quite like to see a midfield trio of Song - Coquelin and Arteta. Giving Arteta a more offensive role. At least it would make us stronger defensively.
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03-Oct-2011 10:50 | | Gooner'79Great but depressing article Lean.
It's just too weird that for 5 seasons in a row we have been hit with the worst run of major injuries to key players time and time again.
Hard to swallow. But then equally, it was hard going into a north London derby not feeling that we can get the better of our nasty neighbours.
They matched us and scored when it mattered, even it was handball, we shouldn't have allowed him to be in such a fortuitous position.
Very sad watching our team so low on confidence and fragile.
It's going to a LONG season. I just hope the team can find some form and some luck along the way.
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03-Oct-2011 10:56 | | Alfie noakesWe need to realise that we are in the middle of a "nottingham forest" style slump here.. With our own Brian Clough at the helm.. 4 wins from our last 19 Prem games and 19 points. If that form continues, we could well finish in the bottom 3.. Now that IS a fact..
Something massive needs to happen to drag us out of this. The signs have been there for months now. Something is wrong and no one seems to know what to do. Add into that RVP's contract talks, Theo's and Songs, and I can only see dark days ahead for Arsenal fans.
And dont even start to mention players we ahave to come back... We had those same players last year during this run, so how will they make that much difference...?
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03-Oct-2011 10:56 | | MeanLeanTell me about it. It is amazing to see major injury after majory injury. I go into every season hoping that our bad luck is behind us and it continues to happen.
We have supported this team during the good times and they were bloody good, it is now time to go the other way and have the stomach for the fight during these lean periods.
What is frustrating is that, we have a talented squad who should be doing much better than they are. Something needs to click though and fast.
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03-Oct-2011 10:59 | | dkgooner"Theo Walcott was very subdued."
You must have that phrase all ready to copy and paste ML.
When was the last time he was anything but?
I would be very interested to hear Theo's fans' argument for why he should start whenever he's fit. But then Capello picks him for England too.
Beats me.
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03-Oct-2011 11:03 | | MeanLeanTo be fair, he was very good in the second half at Bolton. That said, Theo is never really the type of make things happen, he finishes things that do happen. The problem for me is that we do not have a consistent midfielder to probe and make things happen as erm.. that bloke used to.
The distance between our midfield and three strikers were too far all to often and we could not supply them with any service. Theo without service is like fish without water.. or something. Couldn't think of anything smarter than that
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03-Oct-2011 11:04 | | MeanLeanBut you know that we are much better than our results have shown? Or do you really believe we are relegation quality?
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03-Oct-2011 11:07 | | Spectrum"There's only one Arsene Wen-ger," "One Arsene Wen-ger." LOL. What happened, Mean Lean and you A.K.B.'s ? Have you all developed laryngitis, or have you just changed your tune till the next ( rare ) win comes along ?
This season the most singing will be from The Fat Lady.
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03-Oct-2011 11:13 | | MeanLeanFunny that, three wins on the bounce and you vanish. First sign of defeat and here you are gloating once more.
There is a surprise.
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03-Oct-2011 11:14 | | SpectrumVermaelen is a good player. But those that think when he comes back, he'll instantly transform our defence, are overestimating his influence. Remember he played for much of last season, and we STILL leaked 42 goals. Sorry, just another reality check.
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03-Oct-2011 11:25 | | mr hsuch a great Arsenal fan Speccie.
Always here to support in success and always ready to back the team in failure. You really are a gem of a fan. You should set up a supporters school and take your message to other clubs. How bout Man U, they need a bit of a handicap, and I think you would be a great one if you could get other of their fans to join you in your amazing form of support.
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03-Oct-2011 11:28 | | Alfie noakesI dont think we are relegation fodder at the moment, but another 2 months of this and we could be in real trouble.
He HAS to change something.. There needs to be a big shift, if thats getting in Keown then so be it.. But doing the same thing over and again, and expecting a different outcome, basically the signs of someone who has gone mad..!
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03-Oct-2011 11:36 | | dkgooner - Defence.I thought the defence looked much better - did I watch another match? OK, Mertesacker lost van der Vaardt for the first goal, but generally I thought it was encouraging. I was watching on a Canal Plus stream and the French commentators were saying what a fabulous player Song was. Gibbs looks like he's getting his form back too. I just hope that Coquelin gets the nod over Jenks for the right back spot, but me and AW don't seem to be on the same wavelength these days.
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03-Oct-2011 11:36 | | SpectrumWe had plenty of possession in the match, but as usual, didn't do much with it. We lacked creativity, didn't trouble Freidel much, and our defence again, as usual, looks brittle. The worst part was that after their second goal, we showed no urgency, and I don't think we even had a shot. We basically gave up.
Some on here were boasting that we now have about ten club / country captains in our team. Well not one of them stood up and showed the determination and leadership that you'd expect. And in a derby, where guts and passion are the least you should show, that is a disgrace.
Someone pointed out on another blog site, that we have averaged seven points from seven games. If that average was to continue, it's 38 points, and relegation form. I still believe however, that we'll hover between the half way mark and the lower depths of the table. Even Wenger himself belatedly has admitted we are out of the title race. We can only hope at best for a cup, and a Europa league spot. And we're not going backwards ?
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03-Oct-2011 11:38 | | JekyllI agree with Alfie, and his mates Derek & Clive.
Haven't anything else to add as we're repeating ourselves commenting on the repeated mistakes. It's not going to change anytime soon...
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03-Oct-2011 11:39 | | MeanLeanEither he is a Spuds fan in disguise or he truly does not know the meaning of support. One of the two are almost certainly the case.
Not sure which one is worse really. Wasting time pretending to support someone else or only popping out to vent on the team he claims to 'support'
As far as I know, supporting means through the trophies and the lean spells. Nobody is happy with the way things are going but it is easy to tell the ones who are upset with the current situation and the ones who thrive on it. You can spot them a mile off.
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03-Oct-2011 11:41 | | lal - walcott and coWhat world are you arsenanal fans living in walcott is utter rubbish all this theo bollocks,arshavin , ramsey, koschelny, squillachi, gervinio, all GREAT buys mr wengar sell the friggin lot and start again or remain an average side for years to come!!!
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03-Oct-2011 11:42 | | notasgoodaspires - notasgoodaspiresthere is seriously something going on now at the emirates, how can we even begin to excuse why we are in this position?
injuries are used all the time! but with a fully fit squad we still do not have anything near the bench we used to.. it used to be that we were happy for subs as class would replace class but that is no longer the case.
they say money is a problem (tho gazidis says otherwise) but apart from the 2 mancs and chelsea, how can we not be competeing? the squad is weak the tactics are non excistant and the supporters are now fighting each other as the pocket lining board watch over from there palacial seats. im sorry but i cannot accept what is happening at this present time! i am not a plastic ive been going to and supporting ARSENAL since i was 3 and have spent 38 years seeing good and bad, but going from class to farce without a genuine reason is unacceptable.. darker days are upon us and deep down im sure the AKB's know this. for me its a change at the top needed and that hurts but ARSENAL lives on.
cut me i bleed red and white...
(i would have never dreamed of writing this before but i feel needs must)
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03-Oct-2011 11:43 | | SpectrumMean Lean - "Or do you really believe we are relegation quality? " Well sixteen goals conceded is hardly scintillating form is it ?
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03-Oct-2011 11:52 | | Chris - Emirate cursed?I think the emirate is cursed.how come the media always hate us, dodge decisions always go against us,our best players are always injured?
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03-Oct-2011 12:04 | | Spectrummr h - Not meaning to gloat. I was trying to highlight how ridiculous it was to sing the praises of The Senile One after only playing one half of decent football against Bolton. How pathetic it is to cheer the man who has started HIS worst season with us since he's been in charge, and the CLUB'S worst start to the season in 58 years.
In fact if anyone was gloating, it was Mean Lean. So desperate was he for some good news to cling to ( or boast about ? ). This was his comment to me : "Did you enjoy hearing the crowd signing 'One Arsene Wenger' at the Emirates? " Anyone would think we had just won a trophy at The Emirates !!!!
The two wins we've had in the league so far were when we struggled to just scrape a win against Swansea, and then as I said, played one good half against Bolton.I was simply adding perspective.
Maybe he won't be so hasty to "jump the gun" next time.
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03-Oct-2011 12:10 | | home truth - lalEvery now and again somebody says something bang on the nail, lal is absolutely right wengars transfers over the last few years are a disaster sombody should pay the price for this folly
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03-Oct-2011 12:14 | | SpectrumMean Lean - I'd be happier if they were convincing wins. But analyse them......... Swansea were newly promoted, struggling, and up to that point hadn't scored a goal. We laboured to beat them, and did so only with the help of a goalkeeping mistake ( luck going our way for a change ! ). Bolton one good half only, and against Olympiakos, although it was an exciting match which I enjoyed, they were unlucky not to get at least a draw, and probably deserved a win. We were shaky in defence then, too. Remember Fuster's goal that we allowed him so much space for ?
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03-Oct-2011 12:17 | | mjNow is the time to see whose a true fan and whose not. Ofcourse everyone is going to back the team when they go through the season unbeaten but that doesn't make you a true fan. We are going through a very worrying and difficult period, so I don't understand how people can just make fun of the team or manager or be sarcastic about it. The truth is that we are going to find it very tough to finish in the top 4. Based on current form and table, we are not good enough to be there. In my opinion, our loss in the carling cup final, the way we ended the season and the loss of 2 key players have affected the team to the extent where they have lost all their confidence and belief. Once you reach that stage, it becomes extremely difficult and I'm saying that from experience since I play pro in another sport. Its not our players are crap, its just that there is a doubt in their mind and you can see that from their body language. People like jumping to conclusions every single day and at the moment every1 thinks we are going to be midtable. I hope we prove those people wrong as the season goes by and I'm confident that we will
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03-Oct-2011 12:18 | | bob - bad buyshow can wengar honestly justify his buying off sqillachi, koshelni, arshavin gervineo, tubby santos, walcott, just to name a few.If these players came on the transfer market now how much would wengar get for them, you all know the same as me, fuck all
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03-Oct-2011 12:30 | | Spectrummr h - I support the CLUB, not the manager. 80 % of our troubles stem from him. The answer to them is staring us in the face, but we haven't ( yet ) attained that critical mass needed to force the board to act and sack him. He won't go on his own, he's too comfortable and arrogant. He's just stated that health permitting, he'd like to stay for 5, 10, or 15 years more ! And as long as we have idiots singing " One Arsene Wenger ", and displaying " In Arsene we trust " banners, we'll only be encouraging him to do just that.
The intriguing thing is, that as we're obviously going to have a less than stellar season, we're not likely to make the top 4. Thus we'll lose the millions in revenue from the Champions League. That loss of income may be the biggest factor in the board thinking "It's time."
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03-Oct-2011 12:47 | | SpectrumAlfie Noakes - The team's fortunes will change when the manager is changed. I'm amazed many neutral supporters still haven't realised this yet. Wenger should have gone three or four years ago. He's been drinking in the Last Chance Saloon so often, he's got a room there.
We get hammered 8-2 by Man United, and nothing happens. Now we surrender meekly in the derby - the match all true Gunners HATE to lose, and STILL no clamour for his head. What major football club - ANY sporting club for that matter - would tolerate this ?
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P.S. Can anyone explain why Arshavin has been given a pay rise ? How does he deserve it ? He's still under contract, so it's not as if he's going anywhere soon.
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03-Oct-2011 12:50 | | SpectrumAlfie Noakes - " But doing the same thing over and again, and expecting a different outcome, basically the signs of someone who has gone mad..! "
Or senile !
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03-Oct-2011 13:00 | | jd - No more excusesI don't want to hear anymore excuses. I'm sick of wenger coming out after games and complaining about this decision or that decision. Decisions go against everyone every game anyone who plays knows that but if you play well enough you get a result in spite of the decisions and that is what big teams do. All the time people telling me that of course we aren't going to win any trophies because Man City and Chelsea have all the money. Well what about the Scum eh do tottenham have lots more money than us? NO they don't but they will still on current evidence finish above us in the league. All that rubish about not being able to compete for the best players when tottenham are signing VDV for 8 mil and nearly poaching Cahill off us What is happening. Not finishing in the top four I could live with but losing out to tottenham would make me sick. Sorry Mr wenger but however much you have given us for me that will be that. If I was the manager of arsenal and I allowed tottenham to finish above us than I would do the only respectable thing and resign.
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03-Oct-2011 13:20 | | SpectrumI sympathise with Arshavin. We haven't really seen what he can do, because Wenger won't try something different and play him more central. We only see him playing wide, where I think he's wasted, and can't give of his best.
We should also try Walcott as a central striker in a 4-4-2 with Van Persie. And STOP playing a high line, with midfielders who don't track back, and slow defenders who aren't suited to it. But that would require bold thinking and tactical flexibility.
Something we never get.
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03-Oct-2011 13:31 | | Spectrumjd - Here here. Wasn't it ironic that Scott Parker ( for me the man of the match ), was their best player ? We looked at him, but as Arsene knows of course - he didn't think Parker was good enough for us. In fact, he would have been IDEAL for us. Just what we needed. Busy, mobile and actually knows how to defend. And at a bargain basement price of just 5.5. million.
Him and Jose Enrique ( 8 million ), would have strengthened us in two of the key areas - defensive / central midfield and left back.
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03-Oct-2011 13:51 | | SpectrumAnonymous - You seem to see the humour in things. So perhaps you'd like to identify the parts of my posts you found " funny " ?
As a warm up, tell us how hilarious it was losing to Spurs in the derby. I don't suppose you lost too much sleep over it, as your laughing would have kept you awake, eh ?
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03-Oct-2011 14:08 | | anon - spectrumspectum you fucking berk get a life and only lose sleep over things that really matter you asshole
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03-Oct-2011 14:09 | | Anonymousyour whole anti-arsenal attitude is funny mate ...
why you bothered for the spurs loss? lol ...its only a loss in october against an opponent where the score can go either way.... these matches are unpredictable anyway...one decission..one lucky shot...ann offside ..a penalty ....you certainly cant draw conclusion from one match in october can you ?
then you call yourself a realist...haha
well realise this you dumb little smurf....arsenal has been overachieveing all these years and wenger;s only mistake is spoilling his fans with his early success.
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03-Oct-2011 14:14 | | Anonymousparker man of the match? lol what game were you watching mate ? what? did his overdramatised posing convince you? pmsl ..
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03-Oct-2011 14:19 | | van der vart - mclintockrumour has it that wengar is gonna sighn frank mclintock to stabalise the defence, bring back berty mee
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03-Oct-2011 14:46 | | Spectrumvan der vart - Glad you mentioned Mc Lintock -
http://www.talksport.co.uk/sports-news/football/premier-league/1150/ 59/exclusive-mclintock-worst-arsenal-team-ive-ever-seen
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03-Oct-2011 14:58 | | SpectrumAnonymous and anon - So losing the derby doesn't "bother you" much, and it's "not something that really matters" ? WHAT ? You supposedly call yourselves Arsenal supporters, and yet you don't think the derby is all that IMPORTANT ? I think you'll find yourselves in the minority there ! What hypocrites you are to label me as "anti - Arsenal" and a suspected Spurs supporter, and yet deny the significance of the derby !!!!
Mean Lean - Do you hear what he's saying ? Don't you have a comment on this ? Or has your love and affection for Wenger inhibited your priorities ?
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03-Oct-2011 15:49 | | Anonymousoh it bothers me a lot ...like all derbie wins/loses but in the end of the day ..its only a game of football..what wenger i sbuilding is far more important than worrying about a result in a fixture that can go either way.
it just doesnt bother me as much as a cretin presenting the problems arsenal is experiencing are the sole responsibility of the manager.
Liverpool and Arsenal have big problems, and I find it rather irritating that fans continue to imply with their posts the managers of both clubs are somehow soley culpable. Nonsense.
both have sold players to rivals in the SAME league . you reckon they did that volunteerily ? lol
and i have no problem labelling you an anti-arsenal troll for had you beena true fan you wouldnt cry like a girl about trophies....arsenal was never a club that had a monopoly on trophies...it is wenger that made you think like that. well we aint gonna knock him off now just cause results aint coming our way.
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03-Oct-2011 15:50 | | Anonymousyou wanna sack one fo the finest managers in the game and one of th efinest ever in the history of english football and you wonder why people would laugh at you ?
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03-Oct-2011 15:53 | | DansteelActually, that's exactly the opposite of what happened. He missed most of last season and we leaked 42 goals. And yes, he is transformative in central defence, unfortunately we need another player of that calibre as he seems to have hit the injury prone list.
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03-Oct-2011 16:01 | | AnonymousRemember he played for much of last season, and we STILL leaked 42 goals
who played much of last season? vermaelen? lmao ...
obviously not an arsenal fan this rectum
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03-Oct-2011 16:32 | | dkgoonerLot of trolls on here today ML.
One of them clearly the same person using different names.
Ignore them, they get bored and go away.
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04-Oct-2011 01:47 | | SpectrumAnonymous - When God was dishing out brains, you must have been standing there with a thimble.
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04-Oct-2011 02:23 | | SpectrumAnonymous - Winston Churchill was one of our finest Prime Ministers, if not THE finest. His leadership helped save England from invasion by the Nazis. Yet the population still voted him out of office at the end of the war. The British people thought he was the greatest too.
That was just a random case in point. There are plenty of OTHER examples throughout history of great leaders who for one reason or another either lost their way, or lost their touch, thus resulting in their fall from grace. Wenger has given us much. All Gunners are indebted to him for that. But there comes a time when everyone reaches their peak, and then start to decline, some more rapidly than others. Wenger is definitely in that category. You A.K.B.'s just don't want to admit it, and let go. You'd rather suffer years more of poor performance and sacrifice potential success, than say "Thanks for the memories, Arsene, but it's time to recognise your best days are past you." By continuing with this misguided loyalty, you're putting the INDIVIDUAL ahead of the club and its best interests. THAT' S what gets us realists angry at you A.K.B.'s.
All your talk of Wenger as a fine manager, as always, relates to the PAST. You have to focus on that, because he's done nothing in RECENT YEARS to justify it He's only become even more stubborn, arrogant and neglectful. You'll never admit it, but I suspect even you A.K.B.'s secretly acknowledge to yourselves, that he's not the right man for this club anymore. You just don't have the honesty to say it publicly.
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04-Oct-2011 03:01 | | jgunz - arsenals real problem is?IT is sad that drawing with celtic..sorry spurs (i always get the rubbish teams mixed up) is our level.
the current arsenal team are just ok and to tell the truth i think wenger should be moved upstairs to become director of footbal and frank rykaard brought in as our new manager because he is not afraid to invest in big stars like ronaldinho or samuel etoo when they are in their prime.
but that will not happen because the real problem with arsenal is the board of directors restricting the club from investing in the best players while they line their pockets with share dividends.
they are the reason wenger is content with faliure as he continues to make them profits from developing cheap players into stars and selling them for large sums.
we need to organise removing them from the club and replacing them with board members who are more concenred with on-feild success rather than maximizing the clubs financial intake.
new board members...
Board Head/director of football = Arsene wenger ,
Chairman= david dein,
Other board members= kreonke, usminov,martin keown,PATRICK VIERA,paul davis.
notice how many football players are on the board this is because the focus needs to change from profit to making us the best team in the world.
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04-Oct-2011 03:13 | | jgunz - changes at board level neededIT is sad that drawing with celtic..sorry spurs (i always get the rubbish teams mixed up) is our level.
the current arsenal team are just ok and to tell the truth i think wenger should be moved upstairs to become director of footbal and frank rykaard brought in as our new manager because he is not afraid to invest in big stars like ronaldinho or samuel etoo when they are in their prime.
but that will not happen because the real problem with arsenal is the board of directors restricting the club from investing in the best players while they line their pockets with share dividends.
they are the reason wenger is content with faliure as he continues to make them profits from developing cheap players into stars and selling them for large sums.
we need to organise removing them from the club and replacing them with board members who are more concenred with on-feild success rather than maximizing the clubs financial intake.
new board members...
Board Head/director of football = Arsene wenger ,
Chairman= david dein,
Other board members= kreonke, usminov,martin keown,PATRICK VIERA,paul davis.
notice how many football players are on the board this is because the focus needs to change from profit to making us the best team in the world.
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04-Oct-2011 10:43 | | pikawho gives a sh*t abotu winston fkn churchil you dumbass spud troll? lol ...
what makes youthink wenger has lost his touch ? lol ...your bias?
hes done nothing in recent years? lol he only built us a new stadium and facilities to last us another century ...
yure like the monty python sketch "what did the romans ever do for us?"
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04-Oct-2011 10:53 | | pikalol who is suffering? only the idiots are suffering who thought wenger;s early tenor would be the standard even at a period of transition and massive ifrastructure investment ...
i for instance was shocked that the problems you see now didnt hit us as early as 2007-2008-2009
if yure too stupid to understand what long term projects are about then dont blast my manager mate.
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04-Oct-2011 11:28 | | pikamisguided loyalty? lol pmsl ..... so if i get this right ..you dont want to trust the greatest manager arsenal has ever had out of your personal fear that he has lost his touch?
as for him being above the club ....wake up...this is HIS club. he tranformed it into what it is to say so yeas he has a big say, a very big say. not the ultimate decission maker but surely one of them.
if you cant trust one fo the finest managers ever in world football then who will you trust? yourself complaining like a fool ? or martin o'neil ? and guus hiddink? pmsl ..
the more i talk to you i realise that the problems exist in your head .it is your personal fear. nothing to do with arsenal or arsene wenger.
arsenal as a business is tremendously succesful becuase of this person;s management. as for titles youre gonna have to wait ..cause titles are the ambition of the whole club not just the manager. if the club as a whole aint in the mood to challenge united chelsea and city dont take it out on the manager. the manager follows the policy set my the club board. if the board says COLLECT MONEY ..thats what wenger will do. if the board says here arsene heres 100 million win us the league , then he will go and win the league.
very simple things but seeing you are an idiot spud troll i feel im wasting my time
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04-Oct-2011 16:18 | | Spectrumpika - By recent years, I mean the last seven, ( 2004 + ) you know, the seven where we HAVEN'T won the league ! I have acknowledged that BEFORE THAT, he did well for us, and I was a fan of his, like you are now. Then unlike you, I noticed his decline.
So now I have praised him for what he DID DO, how about you conversely, admit his deficiencies and failure over these LAST SEVEN YEARS ? Oh but that would involve being BALANCED. A concept that is alien to A.K.B.'s.
"Long term projects" ? Are we talking in our lifetime ? At our present rate of regress, without Champions league football for next season, and perhaps beyond, how do you think we'll attract QUALITY players to join us ? How can we expect to win titles in the future with an average team, with our better players leaving, and the prospect of top talent bypassing us in years to come ? " Project Youth will deliver", I hear you say. Like it's delivered so far ? And IF we do get one or two kids come through, where will be the experience to guide them when our better players like RVP get fed up with waiting for your "project" to pay off ? The same lack of success ( i.e. trophies ) that Cesc, Nasri and Clichy have lost patience with.They voted with their feet. All we'll have is deja vu seasons like the current one. But of course, we'll have lots of profits for the board.
Your "long term project" will ALWAYS be just that. Long term. Because you'll always be under Wenger's spell. You eat out of his hand. So you believe every word that comes out of his mouth.
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04-Oct-2011 16:34 | | Spectrumpika - " who gives a sh*t abotu winston fkn churchil "
You "don't give a shit" because the Churchill analogy doesn't suit your views.To you, the only Wenger you see is the 2004 version.The "one who has built our stadium", blah blah. I see BOTH versions. And the version we see in RECENT years is not the same one who I remember in his prime.No-one stays at the top of their profession forever. Look at Tiger Woods, Roger Federer, e.t.c. They all had and still have, fans and admirers. But I bet none of them still claim they're the best around. Why ? Because they see the evidence of their own eyes. They see it in the results and the performances. Ring a bell ?
As for Monty Python sketches ? Well the Black Knight from The Holy Grail movie reminds me of you A.K.B.'s. Arms and legs chopped off, yet defiant to the last.Refusing to accept reality.
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04-Oct-2011 17:07 | | Spectrumpika - "Fear" that he has lost his touch ? Not fear, it's based on the evidence. Evidence which I and other realists have been detailing on here for a long time, and which you refuse to recognise, let alone accept. How much time do you want to keep trusting him for ? I'll answer that for you - there is no limit.
Oh, and it's HIS club now ? When did the team name officially change to Arsene F.C.? But then, to A.K.B.'s the two are indistinguishable. Well, I'll have you know the club was around long before Wenger, and it was doing alright then. Wenger has made it more efficient, but he didn't build it with his bare hands, as you seem to think he did.
And if you personally, aren't happy with the board, ( and you're not alone there ), why aren't you joining demonstrations against it, for change ? If it's the board that's the problem, why, if Wenger truly puts the team ahead of commercial matters, doesn't he resign in disgust ? He won't because he has a cosy arrangement with them. And mugs like you allow them to get away with it.
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