Written by TL Gooner on Thursday, 21 April 2011 15:30

I  switched on Sky Sports News this morning when I got up and saw them showing the games in which Arsenal have dropped points from in winning positions- Tottenham twice, Newcastle, Sunderland.

But for some reason they never seem to show Man Utd's weaknesses. Man Utd have actually dropped points from winning poisitions more than us this season and yet it's Arsenal who are criticised for it because a lot of people in football- media, pundits, ex- players etc are just thick. They hide behind the stereotypes and the easy things to say rather than actually analysing things with Arsenal. Yet with Man Utd, they can't wait for 'Giggsy' or Rooney to have a great game, even when Rooney was doing crap they obsessed over him and never criticised Man Utd when they fudged up.

Man Utd were 3-1 at Everton in stoppage time and drew 3-3, that was a capitulation if ever I did see one. They screwed up at Fulham late on- Fulham equalising twice and Man Utd missing a penalty at 2-1. They drew at Birmingham 1-1 in the last minute, the were 1 up at Chelsea late on and lost 2-1. They were 1 up at Wolves and lost 2-1. They were 2-0 up at home to West Brom and drew 2-2, with van der Sar messing up big time. But we can't criticise van der Sar can we? And we definately can't criticise Man Utd can we?

So why do these thicko's focus on Arsenal? I don't know exactly why, we seem easy targets to a lot of people. Probably because we haven't won anything since 2005 and people can't wait to get on our backs for that. If 'Fergie' had gone through through this spell with Man Utd that Arsenal have I don't think Man Utd would be criticised as much, they'd say'Oh Fergie's dealt with the stadium move well and kept Man Utd in the top four every season and come close a few times, what a man'.

But people in this country generally hate Arsene Wenger, perhaps because he says things they don't like to hear, complaining about decisions (but every manager does that), has rows with other managers and not handshaking a couple of times, he answers their questions with complex answers that they probably can't understand because their too thick and already thinking about what to criticise Arsenal of.

I think a big reason is due to the respect for Ferguson and the lack of for Wenger. People in football are too scared of Ferguson, and Wenger isn't a scary guy so they have nothing to fear when criticising them- plus he's not British.

It's just a disgrace how Arsenal are targeted in this country. People are brainwashed to believe all these dodgy stereotypes that journalists and pundits have created themselves because they say simple things because they are too thick to actually analyse more accurately.

They also had the gall to not even show or mention van Persie's disallowed goal at 3-2 that shouldn't have been. Nobody has, apart from the match report on Arsenal.com. Why?! I bet you £100 that if that had been up the other end and it was Tottenham that had it disallowed they would mention it and talk about it rather than focusing on the negatives as everyone does with Arsenal, even when we win.

I'll love it when we win a trophy, particularly if it's one of the big two, to rub it in people's faces- these people who criticise Arsenal all the time and say stereotypical rubbish about them all the time- people like Lee Dixon, Mark Lawrenson, Andy Townsend etc.

I just can't believe that that disallowed goal has never been mentioned. Any other club and it would have been mentioned and looked at but because of Arsenal's form over the last couple of months- knocked out of all the cups and some poor results in the league- they ignore it because they can't wait to stick the knife in again.

Plus, it staggers me that hardly anyone has pointed out how Arsenal have been without Thomas Vermaelen for all but 3 games of the season. They have done excellently to be where they are. But no, no-one says this, people go on about a 'soft centre'- the one which is missing our best and most important centre half.  Can you imagine if Vidic was out for Man utd- it'd be excuses city- 'oh hasn't Fergie done well given Vidic has been out'. And we've had van Persie and Fabregas out for spells, as well as Walcott and Djourou.

Can you tell it winds me right up?

Mean Lean's Response

Don't get me started TL Gooner. I agree with the points you raise completely. We know that the media are not just there to give us the news, they are there to give us the news from their own agenda.

If this is the case with actual real life and death situations that we read and watch every day then why on earth would this exclude football?

What agenda they have is another matter all together. Is it because Arsene Wenger is because foreign? or is it more specifically because he is French? Is it Arsenal? or our supposed lack of English players?

Many football supporters from different clubs feel that they are hard done by from the media and I suppose many supporters can see things from certain angles but there is no doubt in my mind that we are treated differently to other teams.

There are just far too many examples of this to write down today. I have moaned and groaned about them in past blogs and I suppose I will continue to do so in future.

One thing that really gets my goat is the 'lack of trophies' in recent years. Why is everyone going crazy about Arsene's lack of trophies? Who exactly are we comparing this against?

Liverpool FC are a bigger club that Arsenal, they have a better history than we do, they have spent more money than we have but yet have never won the Premier League. Ever. Why do we not hear the repeated mantra about Liverpool not winning a trophy since 2006 or not ever winning the Premier League?

Tottenham Hotspurs have gone fifty years without winning the league and have spent more than most in the Premier League years on transfers yet we do not hear a peep out of anyone about this.

In fact the Spurs love in from the media this season has been sickening. I believe it has something to do with their urge to have Harry Redknapp in charge of the England national team. It is no surprise that Fabio Capello has been destroyed by the red tops this year.

Meanwhile Arsene Wenger has to listen to mindless pundits bang on about Arsenal's lack of silverware in the last six seasons. As if we have never had long spells without winning trophies before and that is without having to rebuild our squad from scratch as well as building a new stadium. That is never mentioned so it doesn't count.

Going back to Van Persie's disallowed goal. My first thought was that he was onside and I was sitting there waiting to be proved wrong but for some strange reason Sky decided not to show a replay that would allow the viewers to make their own minds up.

I understand your frustration. It should bother us Gooners these days but it certainly irritates me.

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Comments (42)

• 22-Apr-2011 13:02 | | durham gooner
  

  Well said boys. I've been saying this for ages but all my mates just laugh it off and say we're just been pathetic. Glad someone else has noticed this too

• 22-Apr-2011 13:05 | | neil  - Thank you
  

  i thought i was the only one who thought this. sparky refused to shake pulis hand was that made a big deal NO. at one one point we have had djourou, kosceinly squailaci and verm out and the press gog on and on how spurs are doing so well with dawson king and woodgate lol. van persie is banging goal in for fun yet berbatov gets more coverage. i the world where spending responabily need to be adopted arsene is cristised for it. we are bring thru young english talent, like we where critised for no doing, we are crisited for not having enuf epreince. i could go on and on

• 22-Apr-2011 13:12 | | hazzaboy21
  

  Good post TL Gooner. Completely agree that there is definitely an agenda against us but unfortunately the only way we can stop it is by winning something. Tbh even when we do there'll still be an agenda agianst us...
  
  To me it seems as if (although perhaps not thinking they are) a lot of the media are simply xenophobic and possibly see the influx of foreign talent impinging on their glorious national team. The glorious national team that haven't won anything since 1966 btw. I can't think of any other reason. They have a go at Ancelotti and yet he won the double last year!
  
  Meanwhile the British managers on the whole can do no wrong. Fergie's working his magic on the Utd squad, Harry's trrific, Moyes could get top 4 every season if he could only spend some money (wait wasn't Fellaini 15m??), King Kenny is back now Liverpool will win the league. I could go on. These prejudices have to stop. But will they? Probably not.

• 22-Apr-2011 13:21 | | TL Gooner
  

  You've thought of things I didn't even think to write about, which shows how much their is to say on this subject- both spot on with the huges/pulis thing and the liverpool/ tottenham thing.
  
  It does sicken me- i could probably bang on about this for 50 pages. I won't though!
  
  The tottenham loving winds me up because they all seem to love 'arry'. It also does my head in how the WHL atmosphere is praised all the time even if it isn't actually very good, yet our atmosphere very rarely gets praised- it's quiet sometimes like liverpool on sunday but for the big games like barca, chelsea, tottenham etc it's always good.
  
  they never criticise liverpool or any other manager that refuses to shake hands with their counterpart. and yet liverpool and spuds have both spent loads more money.
  
  cheers for the responses

• 22-Apr-2011 13:24 | | TL Gooner
  

  yes, again, another person spot on.
  
  it really staggers me how british managers and players are favoured against foreign ones. it's not coincidence that the only players that get praise for arsenal are wilshere and walcott. van persie never gets any recognition, nor does vermaelen.

• 22-Apr-2011 13:55 | | Rambo
  

  Im surprised at all of you that agree with this. lets look at our house first. i don't care what the media say about us because its a sad state of affairs that even at 3-1 i thought we were going to lose.
  
  we have fundamentals issues in our team and management and teams don't give up against us because of the fact that they know theres a way back. the media grab hold of this because WE DON'T WIN ANYTHING!
  
  this article has just made me more angry about the team

• 22-Apr-2011 14:23 | | Ron Aborowa  - Unfair Targeting
  

  It is so sad that commentators from the British press are glaringly in a HATE GAME with ARSENAL. All the teams in the EPL are there to win the championship and so why single out ARSENAL for flogging and tongue lashing?The balance of unwholesome criticisism is stacked heavily against ARSENAL
  Sometimes some of us watching from outside the British Isles believe that the Multi Racial nature of the ARSENAL teams is the cause of hatred. and downright envy. But the multi racial nature of Britain is the Greatness of Great Britain. Some of us from old British colonies have high affection for British sportsmen- Murray, Rooney, Giggs etc and want them to win always.
  
  My advice? Bond and support your team in whatever circumstance. Ignore the armchair squint eyed critics. It is a championship not a war. The team and Arsene have done very well.

• 22-Apr-2011 14:29 | | pistol  - Great OP
  

  A great OP and Rambo your responce is rubbish, go and support the tottering totties and their manager that has only won 1 FA cup in about 20 years as a manager, now compare that with Arsene.

• 22-Apr-2011 14:37 | | jonesmalo
  

  It may have something to do with the fact that Man U ARE champions - and also because Arsenal have had the nasty habit of losing form every February and March for the last six seasons.
  
  The time has come for this Arsenal team to step up and win something. I couldn't care less about Man U is or isn't doing. It is natural that Arsenal would attract this sort of negative attention because they haven't won anything in a while.

• 22-Apr-2011 14:50 | | lookman naija boi  - totally unfaired
  

  No matter the level of their unfaired comment against the gooners, wil shall get there one day. I just want to urge all gooners fans to rally round the team. Especially now when the team is down in spirit. It is not over until is over. GUNNERS 4 LIFE.

• 22-Apr-2011 15:03 | | Peter  - T'was ever thus.
  

  Arsenal are always news in a way that no other English cub is. Man Utd included. It has always been like this. Throw in a fair bit of endemic racism and what club is an easier target? Spurs haven't won a championship for 50 years and have had a couple of decent seasons on the back of spending themselves into financial problems so deep that they now cannot afford the new ground that they've been going on about for years and years. And yet all you ever hear is that Arsenal, who have built an amazing new ground, qualified for the CL for the past 15 years and made a profit haven't won anything for 6 years. I know a couple of football journalists who write for the major rags and I have to say they are the fattest, laziest pair of drunks I have ever met. They couldn't get off their fat arses to check a fact if they tried. Whenever they are called upon to confirm their stories they hide behind a veil of arrogance so preposterously thin you cannot believe it. Check out the Chelsea TV girl calling the repugnant Martin Lipton to task over his writings. It is on You Tube and is completely representative of the code these arseholes live by.

• 22-Apr-2011 15:10 | | jimbo
  

  I agree with all this except the bit about lee dixon. i think he is honest when he talks about all clubs as pundits should be. i think he is just limited on motd due to bbc guidelines. if u read his written articles you can see the real lee dixon

• 22-Apr-2011 15:35 | | trugun  - Media Bias
  

  Two others to place in the Arsenal hate club, Arry's spawn Jamie and the one keen to take on the mantle of aging scribe Ray Wilkins. Redknapp's blast at Arsene after the liverpool game, disrespectful little sod there is no way he would speak about any other manager like that, but when it comes to Arsene and Arsenal he cannot wait to have a go. As for Wilkins two Arsenal games in succession I've heard him commentate on, and with each game there was, according to Wilkins, only one team in it and that sure wasn't Arsenal. I've complained to sky about the biased coverage against Arsenal needless to say, no reply.

• 22-Apr-2011 15:42 | | CHGooner
  

  Reads like it was written by Kevin the teenager. Liverpool were being slaughtered by the media for ages. Man U errr win stuff. iMO Arsene Wenger has been given MORE respect than maybe he deserves because of his 'urbane Frenchman' demeanour. How many journalists are seriously questioning whether Wenger deserves to stay in post? Loads of fans are but not as far as I can tell many -if any at all - journalists do. This is strange given 6 years without a pot.

• 22-Apr-2011 16:38 | | Iceman  - At last!
  

  OMG! At last, some others who see that we are vilified and bullied from every corner of the media. It is almost embarrassing how badly we are treated - if this happened in any workplace the perpetraitors would be kicked out. It is so obvious that there are certain referees who go out to make sure that we don't win-or drop points, Mr Dowd is a prime example of this. I too was incensed that RVPs perfect goal did not get a mention, a bit like AA23 v B'burn! It is a clear witch hunt against us, and a media hype designed to unsettle our players. Why is it that every Spurs report doesn't begin with 'It's 50 years since they won the league..' or Man City who haven't won anything for donkey's years? I think that it is high time that the shameful treatment of Arsenal is put under the microscope. After all, aren't we a symbol of how a club should be run? If finishing in the top 4 for over 12 years is a disaster then I'd take it every year. I don't know the answer, I only know that-like the majority of Arsenal fans, the more we are hated, the more I will stand up for us. A brilliant post which is only what all true Gooners feel.

• 22-Apr-2011 16:41 | | Jake  - It is out of fear !!!!!!!!
  

  Guys, you miss one important point....
  
  Fear of your opposition succeeding in a manor that is so different that it belittles your own achievements and puts them into perspective. Many a great man has been rediculed when he strove to achieve without following and succeeding in the way of the masses.
  
  Since the dawn of the premiership, and the flood of money and good foreign talent, the main ingredients to success has been a combination of multi million pound player invesment, steady youth development, good management and british mixed in with a bit of continental style of play. Even Arsene in his early years spent a bit of money but still far less in comparison to the other top clubs. Therefor, his achievements at that time were not too far from the norm, therefore his achievements are similar to Fergie and others and do not belittle anyone.
  
  Modern times and Wenger has moved away from the norm though choice and not financial constraints. The club is run in the way it is, out of choice. Wenger not spending money, investing heavily in youth, building a new training ground, a new stadium, playing a new continental style of play is all part of the plan for the current and the future.
  
  Wenger needs to win a trophy to break the norm, then the other 19 teams will have to play catchup in building a club based on the Arsenal model which is the only ingredient for proper stable success. Teams are already doing it but behind the media gaze, as so not to attract the same attention and pressure that is on Arsenal and Wenger. Wenger being French then only adds to the insult they would feel if he succeeds.
  
  Therefore my friends, back Wenger and cheer loud and help bring in that first trophy that will be the catalyst to change British & European football. LET THE OPPOSITION FEAR COMMENCE!!!

• 22-Apr-2011 16:54 | | wilderness gooner
  

  i watch the pl,budesliga,la liga and the french league but i have to say english pundits are pathetic.you will hear them coaching us on how to play arsenal and you wonder; if only an english pundit could manage arsenal then he would do the wonders alan shearer did 4 newcastle 2 seasons ago when they needed a savior.pundit from the other leagues will talk about the clubs history or their recent record,player/team statistics but not how to play them.

• 22-Apr-2011 17:16 | | Fatso
  

  "I just can't believe that that disallowed goal has never been mentioned."
  
  When we beat Barca at Emirates, towards the end of the game one of our players handled the ball in the box. Was it mentioned? Just a few weeks ago one of our players scored from an offside position. Was it mentioned? The examples are too numerous to mention.
  
  This is what Wenger said in December 2010: “Against Tottenham for example, you cannot say we conceded goals because they created the chances, it was goals we gave away. But, of course, we want to improve our defensive record. That is needed."
  
  Has our defense improved? Now do you understand why they talk about our trophylessness?

• 22-Apr-2011 21:48 | | Rambo  - pistol - Great OP
  

  so you content with bring the harlem globe trotters are you? its ok you can spend all summer talking about how we play good football and we are moral victors.
  
  and glad your happy with your life of mediocrity

• 22-Apr-2011 21:51 | | Rambo
  

  if we were rubbish and couldn't win thats one thing, continuously blowing winning positions is something completely different. no one ever stops playing against us until the final whistle because they know we will gift them a goal to get them back into it.

• 22-Apr-2011 22:58 | | MeanLean
  

  I just read a comment on another site (ACLF) and he says so many things that I agree with. I just had to share that here.
  
  "Joshua | April 22, 2011 at 10:44 am |
  
  Good post Darius and a clearly interesting take on things.
  
  My two pence worth of opinion is this… I really think that fans, players and everyone else are going to have to find a way to calm the f&*% down, forget about the title, if necessary, and all this other nonsense and just play our football and try and enjoy it. Sometimes a lie is repeated so often that it takes on the patina of truth and in our case the “6-years-no-trophy” bullshit that the idiots in the media parrot has been internalised by everyone, from manager to players to fans… and we now find ourselves, all of us, in a position where great achievements are thrashed by everybody and we are all in mourning though there’s literally nothing to mourn. Disappointment I can understand, regret I can relate to but all this mourning and stupid over reaction is something to be resisted by all sane Arsenal fans. it is crazy that Arsenal and Arsene Wenger are the ones being hauled over the hot coals when Liverpool and City get a pass from the media….
  
  Here’s the transfer list since 1992 of Net spend for each club…
  
  http://www.transferleague.co.uk/
  
  Chelsea ‘s net spend is over £48m per season since 2003. Man City’s net spend is just over 46m per season. Tottenham are next with just over 16m per season followed by Liverpool and Villa who are all over the 10m per season mark. ManU have a net spend of over 6m which isn’t all that impressive but given that they received a world record 80m for C Ronaldo you have say that they’ve done well…. now here’s the thing though Arsenal and Arsene Wenger are in 18th place with a negative nett spend (we have actually made a profit on transfers ) of over 350 thousand pounds. Imagine that for a second? This is a fact that you’d find mentioned literally nowhere in the media. Why is that?
  
  Now let me make it clear that headline transfer fees are not the only issue that drives a club’s success… wages are just as important and are actually more indicative of the quality a team possesses. Our wage bill is allegedly the 4th highest in the league behind Chelsea, City and ManU… so basically we spend less than a 20th of what Chelsea spends and 10th of what United spend and we have lower wage bill but we are expected as a matter of course to win trophies in circumstances where other clubs are not even mentioned… and some fool bloggers want Wenger sacked! For keeping us competitive!! Idiots.
  
  Furthermore we are still the 3rd most indebted club in the league behind Chelsea and United… yes, I know that our debt is tied to the stadium investment whilst Chelsea and ManU’s debt are all linked to things that are not necessarily as productive, but a debt is still a debt and it still has to be managed. So the club’s prudence is for a very good reason. So the question to ask is why all the angst amongst fans and all the bile and vitriol directed towards Wenger… if the facts are what they are and we are massively over achieving by any sane, rational and fair judgement, why are our fans buying into this media generated garbage about 6 -years- -without-a-trophy if there’s no real reason to expect us to get a trophy any way all things being equal… the same test is not being applied to Liverpool or Tottenham is it?
  
  The basic problem here is stupidity, IMHO, we have a lot of stupid fans and some pathetically retarded bloggers like the worms on Le Grove and we have allowed these twits and the xenophobic mugs in the media to set an Anti_Arsenal agenda that we unwittingly buy into lock, stock and barrel.
  
  Don’t get me wrong I have some real anger and some real regrets about how our season has gone and I fully understand that with our potential we should really be Champions now…I regret that we have thrown away so many leads, I hate that we couldn’t hold on to a 3-1 lead for a bit longer and beat the Spuds at home, I feel real pain when I look at the possibilities that have either been snatched away from this team or that we have lost through our own errors in all competitions but I simply refuse to join the mourning, the stupid navel gazing, the wish for Mourinho or whoever else to come and win us trophies (some of our fans are just morons) or for Usmanov to arrive and splash the cash.
  
  We haven’t done as well as we can or should have done… that much is clearly true… BUT WE HAVE OUTSTRIPPED OUR POTENTIAL IN A WAY THAT ONLY A GENIUS MANAGER CAN… without Wenger we wouldn’t even be in a position to be disappointed in the first place. we could easily be in mid table and celebrating a draw against Chelsea as if it was the highlight of our season. Whatever you read in the media remember the fact that the disappointment you feel at failing to properly nail down a result against Liverpool and Spurs isn’t the worst thing that can happen to a team like ours. none one in world football is doing what we are doing that should be a source of pride tom us all… and the success will surely come if we hold our nerve.
  "

• 23-Apr-2011 02:11 | | Calvin
  

  ML : Bingo! Well said.

• 23-Apr-2011 03:40 | | richie
  

  All that would be valid if we were third from bottom. What gives anyone the idea that Arsenal must win "a pot" every 6-7-8 years? We've gone a lot longer than that in the past without winning anything. Its reads to me like the repeating of what the lazy journo's and pundits are saying. Arsenal must win something to justify what Arsene has done. Why?
  When Croyff started the revolution at Barca how many did he win?
  "Urbane Frenchman Demeanour"? I know you'll cry wolf again, but that sounds so UKIP - The reason journalists are so upset is that they are thus far unable to stir up the problems they would like to at Arsenal. In their words " Why are Arsenal supporters still so loyal to Arsene Wenger"? Could it possibly be (intelligence)? that at 2/3 in the league the fans don't see any reason to throw the baby out with the bath water?

• 23-Apr-2011 03:45 | | richie
  

  Well said most are sheep, happily led.

• 23-Apr-2011 12:58 | | richie
  

  Thank you ML yet again you've said exactly was needed to be said. I like all Gooners crave success. I'm hungry for a trophy but I can wait to wash my hands before I sit down at the table to enjoy the meal thats coming. Moreover that meal whenever we eventually eat it, will to paraphrase taste all the better for as Sinatra sings "Doing it our way".
  
  By repeating a phrase continuously (like a form of brainwashing) it takes on a life of its own. Its repeated by others as if its fact. When in effect it doesn't stand any real scrutiny. I'm often at a loss to excuse our own fans gullibility. As someone else said earier some people actually listen to the likes of Shearer. Who couldn't manage the contents of a toy box. Next up lazy journo's and other pundits on the likes of five live rephrase his criticism of Arsenal and our own have the gall to pick it up and use it on our own bloggs against us.
  
  That for me is the difference between our fans and the likes of the Manx and the Pool fans, who on the one hand ain't ever won the prem but stay totally loyal, and on the other, play like crap but never slate there own. Too many of our current fans are fickle and don't "Stand Up For The Arsenal".

• 23-Apr-2011 15:03 | | Boyd
  

  Wenger: "There is always a need to improve the team but if you look at our season you cannot come to the conclusion we need big changes.
  
  "That would be completely stupid because if we had beaten Liverpool and Tottenham this week we would be just two points behind Man United and we have to play them at home.
  
  "And that's without speaking about being 4-0 up at Newcastle and then only drawing."
  
  Wenger is forgetting that we also drew with other teams because the other teams had given up a lead. For example, the first leg against Liverpool we played against a 10 man Liverpool but scored in the dying minutes due to Reina's blunder. This season how many times did we win because the other teams were reduced to ten men? How many penalties?

• 23-Apr-2011 16:07 | | Tommy Boy
  

  A commentator or a press guy didnt start Almunia as our number 1 keeper at the start of the season did they?.They didnt buy Squillaci,They dont keep picking Eboue Denilson Diaby and Bendtner.They didnt throw away a CL group we were winning easily.They didnt fail to sign a CB in january when it was obvious TV wouldnt be back..A cetain A.Wenger made all these mistakes much much worse than anything the media have said or done.

• 24-Apr-2011 00:35 | | richie  - Fatso falls into the trap!
  

  Fatso your wrong! Wrong exactly like the stupid commentator who said Bendtner handled. Please check your facts before repeating the anti Arsenal bias that we are talking about. You listened to the commentators and you believed them instead of actually finding out if what they'd said was true. This is what P's off so many of us about our own supporters, instead of checking out a statement or even just thinking through whats been said you repeat the lie's of the pundits and commentators.

• 24-Apr-2011 01:22 | | richie
  

  TB Check the stats big Al had a really good start to the season. We lost in the CL to Shakhtar Dontesk 2-1 we beat them 5-1 (So our aggregate score was 6-3) next up we lost to Braga 2-0 but we beat them 5-0 at our home (again 5-2 on aggregate) Shakhtar topped the group because Braga rolled over and got badly beat at home. I agree we should've topped the group but with the unexpected Braga vs Shakhtar result it was out of our hands. The need for us to sign a CB like Cahill in Jan was a lot of newspaper talk, we've already got Kyle Bartley who was on loan at Rangers why sign when you've already got. As for Eboue who I think is a good squad member, Diaby likewise might not be first choice but is a reasonable squad player and Bendy again. Not many teams have great quality the further down the list of squad players you go.

• 24-Apr-2011 10:29 | | john  - Realist
  

  Our problem stems fro AW. Come on, he would frustrate the most placid and patient person to become Neurotic. we are a laughing stock, We are a big club, who should be winning trophies within a 6 year span.. Arsenes project has failed and he blames the ref, the weather, the pitch, the sun, the moon, everybody but himself. Diaby, Denilson, Rosicky, Eboue, Clichy, Bendter, Squillaci, Arshavin have also failed. But in Arsenes view they belong to the best Arsenal team he ever managed but still we have so called Arsenal fans with comments on here making more excuses for Arsenes failure by blaming journalists and media pundits. Again Arsene has said that he has money to spend in the summer but he doesnt expect the team to be much differerent for next season as big signings will not be happening I guarantee you that The spuds, liverpool, City Chelski and Manure are above us next year if Major changes in the squad does not happen in the summer and also if Arsenes does not seek help for his Severe Delusions.. He is a failure, i wish he would go, but the board are happy with the status quo also. What A SHAME

• 24-Apr-2011 12:15 | | MeanLean
  

  John, calling yourself a realist doesn't make your points anymore correct.
  
  I actually think comparing the work that Arsene has done with the amount he has spent on our squad compared to those around us would make you more of a realist.

• 24-Apr-2011 13:49 | | john  - REALIST
  

  And who do you mean by them around us? If Arsene had spent in January we would be talking about those below us. Arsenes lack of spending and his faith in Deadwood players is the core problem for us failing again and again and if you and the Arsene apologists cant see that, you are all as deluded as Arsene is. PERIOD

• 24-Apr-2011 14:54 | | richie
  

  So you're a spend spend spend merchant and don't worry about the debt, is that you're idea of relism? I may have missed something but hasn't that been tried before? Haven't the tiny totts spent loads more than us and if they don't qualify 4th to get back that money, they're gonna have to sell players so says their chairman. Give me 15 years of qualification, give me entertaining football, give me lack of player debt,
  give me always in with a chance of winning something, give me finacial stability over debt any day of the week any footballing season of any year. We've waited to win in the past lets keep our nerve and win something "doing it our way"(Sinatra-ish). Not by loads of debt like the TT's Manu'er or Sugar daddy's Chelski & Money city.

• 24-Apr-2011 16:52 | | john  - bottlers
  

  All i will say is. Are you watching todays match. what a pile of S***. tippy tappy , tippy tappy. Nasri had 3 chances and still wanted to pass the bloody ball in the 18 yard box. Wasters, bottlers, weaklings and losers. and we can look forward to this crap next year.

• 24-Apr-2011 19:22 | | TL Gooner
  

  'So called fans'? You mean fans that support him and the team rather than criticisng them all the time and just adding to the pressure?
  
  I can tell you care as we all do, we just have different opinions and ways of dealing with the disappointment.
  
  It's a bit harsh having a go at Arshavin too, he's actually popped up with a lot of goals and assists this season. Not a bad back up player I think.
  
  AW is not solelt to blame either, yes he should have signed a CB but you can't say him defending the team has cost us this season.

• 27-Apr-2011 06:56 | | Subir Kumar Roy
  

  i am an arsenal fan from the indian subcontinent. Since the time I have started following EPL, I have observed a strong bias in favour of Manchested United in England, be it the English media, public, football administration etc
  
  I may be horribly wrong. Wenger is the exact opposite of the way football is administered, played, funded etc etc in England. This has not gone down well in England. If only Arsenal had represented all that is wrong with football, toothless FA, physical nature of the game (leg breaking tackles), spending filthy money, piling up debts... it would have appealed.
  
  Although it ain't right, aided by financial doping it tickles me no end that Chavs, Mancs, Spuds have emerged/emerging as challengers to Man(ure). It is war and everything is fair in war. If only more the likes of Balotelli can wind up Man(ure)
  
  Only money can be countered by more money........... prove me wrong
  
  An "Arsenal" fan

• 27-Apr-2011 06:57 | | Subir Kumar Roy
  

  i am an arsenal fan from the indian subcontinent. Since the time I have started following EPL, I have observed a strong bias in favour of Manchested United in England, be it the English media, public, football administration etc
  
  I may be horribly wrong. Wenger is the exact opposite of the way football is administered, played, funded etc etc in England. This has not gone down well in England. If only Arsenal had represented all that is wrong with football, toothless FA, physical nature of the game (leg breaking tackles), spending filthy money, piling up debts... it would have appealed.
  
  Although it ain't right, aided by financial doping it tickles me no end that Chavs, Mancs, Spuds have emerged/emerging as challengers to Man(ure). It is war and everything is fair in war. If only more the likes of Balotelli can wind up Man(ure)
  
  Only money can be countered by more money........... prove me wrong
  
  An "Arsenal" fan

• 27-Apr-2011 08:18 | | Rambo
  

  "Only money can be countered by more money"
  
  This is not what we are about and frankly I am glad we are not. If we ever become a Chelsea/ Man City etc... we will loose more than we will gain.
  
  Here is a hypothetical situation. If we spend £100 million on players and buy premadonna's like Man City did and we finish 2nd, you think thats going to make you any happier? If it does your supporting the wrong club.

• 27-Apr-2011 09:18 | | richie
  

  I'm certainly looking forward to next season!

• 27-Apr-2011 11:43 | | Subir Kumar Roy
  

  I have never advocated that Arsenal spend millions of dollars

• 27-Apr-2011 12:20 | | Man United Killa  - me too Richie
  

  ...And guess what if we dont get in some quality,change our attitue and tweak our playing style all we can look forward to next season is another 3rd or 4th spot--if we are lucky.yay!!!here comes next season!

• 27-Apr-2011 12:38 | | Rambo
  

  your words not mine

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