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Written by hazza boy21 on Monday, 11 July 2011 23:55

So here we are in the summer of 2011. The squad have embarked on a money-spinning tour to Asia where the hard work really begins. However, for Arsene Wenger the hard work began long before he climbed the steps on the plane to Malaysia. Barcelona are back once more to try and prise Cesc Fabregas away from our grasp and back to what they claim is his ‘righteous’ place. This is nothing new to Arsene. We seem to have had as many full-blown summer transfer sagas in recent years as Barca players confessing their undying love for Cesc. I could go into how pathetic their attempts at taking ‘El Capitan’ back to Spain have been but that would be going back on considerably well-trodden ground.

What we have this summer, however, is a dual saga at a very unwelcome time. “6 years without a trophy” the journalists consistently inform us. Yet, in one of the most important summer transfer windows I can remember we are seemingly more at risk of weakening our squad than improving it. The Samir Nasri contract situation is one that has certainly added intrigue to the window. Not the “I wonder what presents I’ll get on Christmas Day?” intrigue though. Far from it.

The way I see it, there are 5 possible scenarios that could play out this summer. I’ll go through the options, each more unfavourable than the last, trying to weigh up their pros and cons and make some logical sense of this mess we find ourselves in.

Option 1. Both Cesc and Nasri stay.

Clearly this is the best scenario but also the most unrealistic. It has the benefit of keeping the squad together and this of course would be of great advantage. Both players are 24 years of age and reaching something close to their footballing potential. Losing them before they have reached this level would be a huge blow both to the club as a whole but also to Wenger’s ‘Project Youth’. What is the point of buying youngsters if they are to forever leave before they reach their best?

Keeping both players would also mean the continuation of Theo van Nasregas, the fabled combination, whose different constituent parts complement each other so well. We all saw that when Walcott, van Persie, Nasri and Fabregas all played in the same team we were at our most dangerous during the season and that could well be enhanced this coming season with the long-awaited addition of Gervinho. This option would also mean a minimal change of personnel in the attacking portion of the squad, thus reducing the possibility of new signings needing time to bed-in. Having said all this it would be quite remarkable if both players were still in N5 come the 1st of September.

Option 2. Cesc stays and Nasri goes this summer.

If Barcelona don’t cough up the required cash there’s a distinct possibility Cesc will remain at Arsenal. We have the advantage of his contract not running out until 2015 so are in quite a strong position. If one was to stay I would prefer it to be Cesc for the simple reason that he is the better player in my opinion. This is not to say that I don’t rate Nasri, far from it. But I do feel that it would be much easier to replace him than Fabregas. This option has the disadvantage of strengthening a rival, who at this moment in time seem to be Manchester City. It would come with a fee though, likely to be in the region of £20-25m, which could be reinvested back into squad. Juan Mata of Valencia has been mentioned in the media as a possible replacement and would soften the blow of losing Nasri somewhat. Also, Nasri will be suspended for the first game of the next Champions League campaign. The joke’s on them right?!

Option 3. Cesc goes and Nasri stays signing a new deal in the process.

This option sees Cesc return to Barcelona and hopefully that will be the last of them until they inevitably return for Toral and Bellerin when they start to blossom in our first team. This scenario also sees us tying Nasri down to his desired 110k/wk deal. This at least guarantees a sell-on fee should he leave in a few years time unless we allow his contract to run down again! However, this is balanced out by the fact that the club’s wage structure would be broken and other players will see this as an opportunity to get a pay rise. I’m thinking especially of van Persie and Walcott who ominously both have 2 years remaining on their current deals. These need to be sorted as soon as possible if we’re to avoid another Nasri situation. After all, having your highest earner on 110k/wk isn’t the worst thing in the world in today’s market though is it?

Option 4. Cesc goes and Nasri stays but doesn’t sign a new contract.

Not a scenario I’m very comfortable with. The likelihood is that Nasri would leave at the end of the season and we wouldn’t receive a single penny. Some have said that silverware may sway him but could you see us realistically winning either the Carling or FA Cups and Nasri foregoing massive wage rises at either Manchester clubs, Chelsea or abroad to stay at Arsenal? It’s an incredibly risky strategy that I’m not sure Wenger would entertain. I would have hoped he’d have learned from the Flamini situation. In addition to this Nasri would require replacing at the end of the season probably at a similar fee to our reported valuation of him now. Why would we do the deal a season later, thus losing a potential £25m?

Option 5. Cesc and Nasri both go.

Welcome to the worst case scenario. Actually I lie. The worst case scenario would be losing both and Wenger announcing we’ll use current squad members to replace them. I don’t know about you, but as versatile as Eboue is, I’m pretty sure he’s not adept at playing the no.10 role! Losing one, as I’ve explained above would be pretty bad to varying degrees but to lose one of your two world class squad members (I class RVP as the other) and another player a category just below that level would be almost impossible to deal with in one window. I won’t spew the stats as we’ve all seen them (follow @OptaJoe and @Orbinho if you don’t already for more stats than you can shake a stick at) but simply put take out Cesc and we’re losing a hell of a lot of assists/goal-scoring opportunities and without Nasri an improving clinical edge in front of goal (despite his under par run-in).

Then there’s the issue of what message selling both Fabregas and Nasri sends to not only the fans but the remaining squad members and even prospective targets. Arsene himself said on arrival in Malaysia:

“The message that we give out is important. For example, you see about Fábregas leaving, Nasri leaving ... if you give that message out, you cannot pretend you are a big club. Because a big club, first of all, holds on to its big players and gives a message out to all the other big clubs that they cannot come in and take away from you.”

Quite right too. Can you imagine the discussion between van Persie and Gazidis at the next contract negotiation? Robin is 28 this August and will want reassurances on the direction the club is heading before signing what could be his last big contract. Do you think he’s going to be quick to sign if Samir and Cesc have already trotted into the distance? Of course he isn’t and this is despite his genuine love of Arsenal. Ultimately he’s an ambitious footballer and wants to win things. The club needs to improve not regress. This will be impossible in the short-term should we lose both players this summer.

So, there are the myriad of options we (well, Arsene) is left with and it’s not pretty reading (and not just because of my writing style for which I apologise). If I was to guess, I would say Option 3 was the most likely to actually transpire. This would mean the end of Cesc’s stay at Arsenal and though I would be disappointed should he depart I would accept it. Yes, he’s done a few stupid things this season; the handball vs Spurs and the backheel vs Barca to name just two (sorry for dredging up those horrible memories). Despite this, nobody can deny his love for the club, and though some may debate this, I believe he’s given 100% in every game he has played for us (so far).

Whatever fate we are left in at the end of this summer one thing will remain constant: The fans. I just hope we have a competitive squad to cheer on come the end of the window.

You can follow me on twitter @hazzaboy21

Mean Lean's Response

Nice stuff Hazzaboy, you have pretty much summed it all up in your piece and it has been a worrying time for Gooners around the world. I think it is safe to assume that Samir Nasri will be seeing out his contract with Arsenal. Wenger spoke last night about not selling the player but if that is the case then I am not so sure that will be his decision. Nasri holds all the aces here so even if Arsenal want to get rid, he just simply has to decline a move. I have the sneaky feeling that Real Madrid are lurking in the picture somewhere very quietly. His boyhood idol, Zinedine Zidane is now the director of football at Madrid and I really wouldn't be all too surprised to see Nasri find his way to sunny Spain once we have won the Premier League this season.

I agree with you about Cesc being far more important than Nasri. His ability to create goalscoring opportunities is so important to a team that often has to face two banks for four outside of their penalty area. Judging by Arsene's comments yesterday, it seems as if the decision is down to the player. Arsene has a lot of respect for his players and he wouldn't want to keep someone against their wishes who have been so loyal and committed to the club for all this time.

Eboue as a number 10? Ha, that would be an interesting sight The pass master pulling the strings. I wouldn't worry about that happening. If Cesc left the club then he would be replaced externally. Well you would certainly hope so. Aaron Ramsey is a lovely player but asking him to fill the boots of Fabregas over the course of a whole season would be risky at best.

All I care about is having a competitive side come to the close of the transfer window, all the rest has turned into a rather boring soap opera.

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Comments (33)

  • bradman  - CH
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    While the ongoing Cesc n Nasri saga continues, I feel absolutely gutted we still have not bought in a centre half of any description ?
    Surely this needed addressing the second the transfer window opened ?
    Nasri never turned up from March onwards , Cesc was never fit enough for us to decide was his heart in it or was he just unfit .
    I cannot believe the defensive frailties have not been addressed yet , and been made considerably weaker with the departure of Clichy. Although he hasnt been at the top of his game for ages its another body gone.
    Gibbs I sincerely hope you're ready as I think you could be the answer but can he stay fit ????????
  • Tom
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    This summer will be no different to the others.

    As soon as pre-season starts, Wenger re-writes history and claims that we were 'unlucky', 'very close' and had 'bad injuries'.

    Of course, there is no mention that we have the same weaknesses that we had 5 years ago.

    No mention that we finished closer to Spurs in 5th than we did to Man Utd.

    No mention that got less points, scored fewer goals and had an equally poor defensive record than the previous year.

    No mention of our collapse (relegation form) during the last 1/3 of the season.

    Nor does he mention that ALL clubs suffer from injuries which is why you need a strong squad.

    I can't be bothered to listen to him anymore. He's just as boring as all the transfer speculation splashed across the internet.

    We ceased to be a football club a few years ago. Its just all about money, corporate double speak and spin.
  • Spectrum
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    Mean Lean - Yes, Arsene respects the players ( excessively so, in some cases ), but it's apparent that they don' t respect HIM. With the departures, potential departures, and players making public statements about our lack of ambition and signings, that's quite evident.
    The latest to speak out is Van Persie. Should we be surprised ? If we don't show we're serious during the next couple of weeks, who knows - we could very well be seeing HIM saying he wants to leave, as well.
    None of this raises alarm bells with you, though, I take it ? Everything will turn out just fine and dandy. Keep the faith, trust Arsene. He knows what he's doing. Sure. Just more media lies and speculation is it ?
    "******************"
  • jgunz
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    SAMBA,SAMBA SAMBA SAMBA SAMBA SAMBA SAMBA SAMBA SAMBA SAMBA SAMBA SAMBA SAMBA SAMBA SAMBA SAMBA SAMBA SAMBA SAMBA SAMBA SAMBA SAMBA. he does not even cost 15 million wenger please do your job and by this brute.
  • John  - Intelligent podge
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    It really defies belief at times reading some wenger apologists posts. For example. Podge praises Diaby (waste of space) for helping us go 4 nil up in 1st half against newcastle and how big an asset he will b for us next season. He then accepts in other article that Diaby was to blame for the 4.4 draw. Do u podge accept that this result was the beginning of the collapse for the last 3rd of the season. (as usual) . You really are scraping the barrel with this article suggesting Diaby will do well in new season. No wonder this site is getting slaughtered for its head in the sand attitude to every problem Arsenal have .
  • hazzaboy21  - ermm...
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    ...at no point in this article did I mention Diaby...
  • John  - Erm
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    I did say Podge. Read it again.
  • hazzaboy21  - fair enough
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    I was just wondering why you felt the need to bring it up again.
  • Josh Walters
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    I personally think Arsene sees Option 3 as the best way. That losing Cesc AND Nasri in one summer is too much, because he has privately accepted Cesc is leaving.
    That being the case I can see why he is being so bullish on Nasri, on the one hand as he said you can’t take two big hits at once and lose two of your biggest and important players if you want to be a big club. On the other; my theory is that he plans to reinvest the Cesc money with one or two who can try and fill the void and Cesc’s position (that being Mata, Benzema or whoever) and by doing that he can convince Nasri to extend his contract with these squad improvements and possibly a higher wage.
    He could not do this if he kept Cesc AND Nasri, Cesc would stay till next season (most likely) and Nasri would leave on a free, so in that scenario we lose both and suffer later, instead of now.
    If Arsene has accepted he can’t convince Cesc to stay this season, his reasoning for keeping Nasri then makes perfect sense. Tell Nasri he is going nowhere so be can prepare for this season without distraction, sell Cesc, reinvest the money on new players to improve the squad, convince Nasri to sign a new deal due to these improvements and a higher wage.
    This in itself is a gamble because Nasri could see the sale of Cesc as a massive disadvantage and not be convinced by the new signings to replace him and still not sign a new deal, then still leave on a free next season. But in my mind this is the only scenario that has a chance of being to the benefit of Arsenal, keeping both Cesc and Nasri until next season and losing both would hurt badly and 3+ replacements would have to be found to repair the team, losing them both this season even worse, by selling the most unhappy (and expensive) player Arsene can still work his magic on Nasri who I think will sign if the right players are signed (see his comments in March about owing his success to Arsenal) and the damage of losing Cesc is dampened by Nasri’s commitment and new signings to improve the squad.
    I understand the notion that Cesc is invaluable to Arsenal with his goals and assists (who can forget 09/10) but as we will inevitably lose Cesc to Barca why not use that to also try and keep one of your other best players in the team and use that Cesc money to convince him. We fill the Cesc void (hopefuly) AND keep Nasri (hopefully).

    I also realise that the way I see it is a massive gamble too! But it's the only scenario I can see that damages us the least.
  • hazzaboy21
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    We seem to be thinking along similar lines Josh. As you say the likely scenario is a risk in itself but one that probably has to be taken. It would be disastrous to lose both this season. One thing that is imperative is that if either does go the money must be reinvested back into the squad THIS summer. That's the least we should expect. Hopefully Arsene realises this too.
  • Josh Walters
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    Couldn't agree more, whilst I believe Kieran Gibbs has the ability to replace Clichy, I would be up in arms if Arsene even attempted to replace Cesc from within. That would be madness.
  • jack
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    Maybe , Maybe, but Nasri might also remember that AW promised cesc new signings last year to convince him to stay. Who could blame them for wanting to leave, with so many false promises year after year.
  • hazzaboy21
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    Yes, there may be some 'false' promises in the respect that Arsene doesn't always strengthen where we all want him to. However, I think it has to be said that it's a 2 way process. Arsene, I would hope will realise he has made mistakes in the past and address them but the players also have to take some of the blame. After all they're the ones kicking the ball around the pitch and as has been frequently discussed a number of them simply didn't perform come crunch time. So it comes down to both; player recruitment and internal improvement of the squad will determine how successful we are next season.
  • jack  - honesty
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    lets be brutally honest. how can the players take the blame when AW played them out of position because he failed to buy in january, the players that would have filled them positions.How can people not see what has been happening to Arsenal these last few years.
  • hazzaboy21  - Don't get me wrong...
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    ...I know Arsene has made mistakes and he's lost his air of invincibility. He's under pressure this season more than he ever has been in his time at the helm of our beloved club. All I'm trying to say is that he's not completely responsible for our recent struggles. Is that really too hard to accept?
  • jack  - Ultimately
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    Ultimately it is Arsene. But the corporate board went along with Arsenes project youth as it benefited them by not having to spend much and benefited AW to continue in his project youth fantasy. This is hard to accept. I do however, appreciate your objectivity hazzaboy21, unlike some other contributors.
  • MeanLean
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    Jack, this is the thing, people can have different views and opinions, not everyone has to agree with your way of thinking.

    It is not your view that gets my back up it is the way that many with another opinion start a comment by not addressing the article and instead turn to insulting the poster or the manager even if the article is nothing about the manager.

    I have had many good debates with fans with the opposite view to myself, a perfect example is CH Gooner. Always disagree but always respectful.

    Personally I do not see why my stance of the club and team makes other fans shit their pants. I support Arsenal and am biased towards Arsenal. That to me is normal and is usually the normal argument with a rival fan. However turning to insults because another supporter likes the club is strange to me.
  • olufemi  - crux of the matter IMO
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    Good write up hazzaboy. Quite interesting piece and debate. No need to add much to the ongoing other than am almost certain Nasri would stay and then leave on a 'free' next season even if Arsenal wins a double. This is simply because of the high wages that are being paraded. Sometimes you can't blame the players! I do wonder why AW hasn't deem it fit to buy CBs by now and IMO Arsenal needs 2. I read earlier in the media about CFC hijacking GC and TFC, CS! Sometimes I don't just know what AW thinks really! This is obviously a department that we lack steel, experience and cost us massively last season (dito the few years). Arsene needs to invest in our defence NOW!
  • jack  - fair enough
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    Fair enough. I am biased also ML, and maybe i have overreacted to some fans. IMO however i believe that you and others have lost the ability to find fault and be objective re AW, his decisions, cheap players, tactics, his post match interviews (mental strength, character etc. Best team he ever had etc etc etc). I do believe that you cant or wont change the stance and direction that this site always had, and that is "in Arsene we trust" (fair enough) and all your articles reflect this with no appreciation for opposite points of view. You did say in one of your posts that your afraid of change. Is it impossible for you to be objective like hazzaboy21 and appreciate that we might be right. or is that strange aswell.
  • IndiGooner  - In Wenger We Trust.
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    After reading the comments, Some what knowing(understanding) Wenger reading the above blog. There are lots of Questions which come to my mind. Please help me if u can?
    a) according to me 3 is not an option, Cese has 4 years of contract, he is happy at Arsenal but wants to go 2 barca where as if Nasri has not signed a new deal. I think Wenger would sell Nasri get the money get Cahill and some other winger.. Cese can go next year and in the mean while we would have an established and experienced midfilder like rambo, ryo or gerevino.
    b) Wenger is a man of his words though he failed to deliver a trophy. he would never have made a false promise to any of these guys, else they would have spoken of him like Luka at "spuds the duds" did. Why would he? He and Board both know that we will be in top flight but cannot or do not have the $$$ to buy super expensive waste like ManC and 51 years and counting are doing.
    c) If we do not win the responsiblity ultimately lies with Wenger but dont the players see what did they do on the filed? Did the players not see what Diaby did against new castel, Cese against spuds, eboue against liverpool, they get their share of spanking and punishment.
    d) Why is Wenger blamed for new Players like Chamakh and Koscielny. i believe they performed really well. They were never supposed tp be the first choice. and had TV been fit we would have saved atleast "3 matches" minimum which would have made a lot of difference to points tally.. and who is to blame for his Injuries... Not Wenger for sure....I guess it should be the medical staff..
    e) We all have a choice either to support Arsenal or crib.. then let wenger do the firefighting on 3 sides.. Fans, Board and matches ofcourse. i guess we should help Wenger rather than stand opposite to him and repear Roy @ liverpool..
  • MeanLean
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    Maybe this is where the confusion comes from. Regular readers of the site will tell you that I have voiced my views on where we have gone wrong, what we do not have and I feel has not been good enough. I am not living in the clouds where I think our manager does not make mistakes. When I have felt it necessary I have expressed frustration.

    Looking around the blogs, I feel there are enough people ranting and raving, I enjoy writing about what I think is exciting and positive about the club. That does not mean that everything is perfect, it is just that I enjoy writing about good things rather than negatives. That is just me as a person. While Spectrum gets his kicks from jumping from comment section to comment section to obsess about Arsene Wenger and AKB's, I would rather talk of the improvement of Jack Wilshere, the goals of Van Persie, the start that Ryo made in Holland, our young Pole in between the sticks etc.
  • jack
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    Fair enough. But if you did write about what you dont like now and again,
    you might not get so many negative comments.
  • richie  - clinical finishing of chances created is the answe
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    Goals win games - score goals from the chances we create and that changes how games are played - I don't think our defence is as bad as your making out - The famed back 5 it might not be but our defence would look a lot better if our attack finished clinically.
  • richie  - Why post on a Gooner site?
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    YATID!
  • richie  - Why comment on a different blog?
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    Someone ain't smart enough when reading your article and the subsequent comments to realise Podge ain't on this particular blog.
  • gombe  - arsenal signings
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    I WANT TO URGE THE CLUB TO MAKE SIGNIONGS
  • mick gooner  - lack of vision
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    great stadium,great training, but oneboby on the pitch. Wenger you have had five years of saving money, you have incresed the price of seats. The one thing you have not done, is bring in some big names who can control what happens on the pitch.

    Your time is up, pack your bags, the only thing your brought the club is it to its knees.
  • Man United Killa  - Jack's interesting point
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    Come to think of it Mean Lean..Why dont you write one article about what you dont like..If there is anything at all that you dont like.That'll throw some more light on your thoughts
  • Man United Killa  - Richie..look at it for a sec
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    Richie..But come on think about what Spectrum is saying for a second.The players need to see the club showing some intent.If that does not happen, they will get fed up just like Cesc and Nasri has.That will obviously breed lack of respect for management.Players will increasingly start to see Arsenal as a feeder club."I can go to Arsenal..play a few years..get good and move on to another club to win a trophy"...its worrying at the least.
  • richie  - I have looked @ it long & hard Muk
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    But Muk we all know thats whats been happening since back in the day, since Cashleys head was turned by Chelski's money. You know Cashley the supposed Gooner who came up through the ranks. Next up Flamini another Marseille Mercenary who put himself in the shop window for one season to engineer a money move away for better wages. Our board wouldn't break the wage structure for him either, Arsene wanted to keep him too as I recall.

    This isn't new, the new thing is that the blame is being put down at Wengers door, which I find strange. If Wenger sign's a young up and commer and works with that player developing them until that player is playing for the first team what makes anyone think that Arsene Wenger wouldn't want to keep that player? The player himself having made it to the big table suddenly realises he's worth big money so he puts in for a wage increase via his agent, the board offers him less than he wants so he doesn't re-sign. So thats Wengers fault right?

    I repeat Muk no other manager given the tight budget he's on has bettered Arsene's record.
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