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Written by Desmond S on Friday, 06 July 2012 15:40

When I read RVP's post on his website, I was not upset. Instead, I think I understood what he was trying to say. RVP said that he and the club do not agree with the way that Arsenal should move forward. I have not been happy with the way Arsenal are moving..well stagnating. If what RVP is trying to say is that Arsenal need to buy quality players to challenge for titles else he is moving on, then I agree with him. As a matter of fact I think all fans would agree with him. RVP has been an Arsenal fan even before he joined us. I do not think he is being disloyal, in fact, I think he is right to stand up to the board and say to them what every Arsenal fan has been thinking. He wants them to bring Arsenal back to its glory days and is challenging them to fight for the title. In a world full of anger and distrust we are ready to jump on player’s backs without knowing the whole truth. The media makes it worse by publishing rumors. We have to understand that everything we read in the papers is not true.

Put yourself in his shoes. I'm sure most of us want to be successful in whatever it is that we do, so why should RVP be slated for wanting the same? If you were RVP, when you looked back at your career, would you want to see yourself happy that you scraped through a CL spot or would you want to see yourself winning titles? This should be a chance for the fans to stand up to the board and the club's transfer policy. Over the years we have lost Henry, Flamini, Hleb, Toure, Adebayor, Fabregas, Nasri, and Clichy (don't really care about him). Henry moved on to win titles too! Why put on a pedestal? Wasn't he in the exact same position as RVP is in now?

I may be wrong in assuming that RVP is a nice person, but, I hope not. I would like to think that deep down he really wants Arsenal to bring in some good players so that he can stay. I would like to think that there is still some humanity left in RVP especially considering the things that he has said about Arsenal in the past. The truth is we will only find out his true intentions once he leaves. If he goes to City or ManU it may be for the money but it may also be for titles. All we can do is hope that Wenger makes some signings! Here’s to another stressful transfer window!

Mean Lean's Response

Not agreeing with how the club should move forward could mean absolutely anything. It could mean that he wants a certain player signed, it could mean that he wants certain players to stay. What is more than likely in my eyes is that he doesn't agree with the contract amount on offer. Only van Persie, his agent, Arsene and members of the board know the true story.

We have already signed a German international forward on top of a French international striker who finished as top scorer in Ligue 1 last season and judging from what Arsene has said recently, it looks as if he hasn't finished his work in the market. Would you say that it a club lacking ambition?

Why not just stick with Afobe, Park et al and say that they deserve their chance. In the last two summers we have bought Santos, Mertesacker, Arteta, Podolski, Gervinho, Giroud and others. These are not kids with potential, these are international class footballers who all have something to prove. We are building a team that can compete and not just waiting for a side to mature.

If the rumours about Carzorla are true and we do sign him then we are a strong team and squad than last season even without Robin van Persie. It would take a serious argument to convince me otherwise. That is not to mention Jack Wilshere just around the corner.

Time to move on away from van Persie and let us concentrate on the likes of Laurent Koscielny who today signed a new deal for our great club.

Comments (15)

  • Akeem Oyalowo  - Read Between What Lines?
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    I hope RVP stays beyond his present contract. however if he doesnt sign a new deal, i would expect Wenger to make him sit the next one year out. on the bench if he goes about sulking. if not let him give his best and not get injured and see if we do not do better than last season.
    RVP, Clichy, Nasri, Fabregas and others who left are like passengers who got down from the bus complaining that it was taking too long before loading full. just imagine if Hleb, Adebayor, Flamini, Fabregas, Nasri, had stayed on, wouldnt we have won a trophy before now? in RVP's case particular case he is like a wife who had been sick for the 1st 6 years of marriage and who now complains that after 18 months of good health that she doesnt think the husband can take care of her. i know, Mean Lean that your response to Desmond's piece did not mention that RVP owes Arsenal gratitude. but there i said it.
    it is important as Arsenal fans that we do not submit ourselves to the intricate designs of the media to bring down Arsenal FC. every thing being said about the club is negative which is ok until we fans start believing the bullshit being spread. for example if Arsenal signs Neymar the media will describe him as a brazilian starlet, but were it to be Chelsea, he will be referred to as a Brazilian Superstar. it is that type of mentality that has led the media into spreading the story that Arsenal is not active in the transfer market even though we bought Podolski who scored 18 league goals in Germany last season and has 100+ German caps, or Giroud who was the French league top scorer last season.
    we rarely used Chamberlain last season, and he gave us already as taste of what to expect. NoDiaby last season+ no Wilshere and You start to ask yourself what trophy ambition is RVP looking for if the real reason isnt money.
    in the future, it is important that players do their math very well and see how much they are going earn from Arsenal in the long term than 2 seasons of big money with Man city or barca and then a need to take a paycut in the years after like Hleb. Bergkamp earned money from Arsenal till he was 36. top salary which he could have lost if he had gone elsewhere and forced to retire early like Henry and Van Nistelrooy.
    those players see this example but do not heed them. perhaps reason for us not winning trophies is their low appreciation of seeing their career as a marathon not a sprint.
  • Andy Mack
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    "As a matter of fact I think all fans would agree with him"

    You think wrong then.
  • MeanLean
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    Apologies for the errors in my response. I was in a hurry and did not proof read.
  • craig
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    Wiltshire just around the corner- man you have got ur wenger rose tinted glasses on today!!!
  • richie
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    Plant life return to Arsenal truth where you belong!!!
  • Desmond S
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    LeanMean - This was written before the signing of Giroud and before we were linked to Carzola. At the time the only signing we made was Podolski. It is not fair for you to respond to an article 2 - 3 weeks later when the whole situation has changed. Of course with the signing of Giroud and potentially Carzola, things are starting to look optimistic.
  • MeanLean
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    @ Desmond,

    Pre Giroud?, bloody ell that was a long time ago. Apologies and yes, I should have mentioned that you sent the article a while back.

    To be honest, I like many Gooners have had a bit of an emotional roller coaster with this whole saga.

    If we continue to do what we need to do this summer then we can be stronger for it.
  • Waterboy
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    Hey ML articles like Desmond S' and the commenta they generate is alway an interesting read! That said i was just wondering what you meant in your response when you say "why not just stick with Afobe, Park et. al and say that they deserve their chance"? Keep up the good work and keep the articles and post coming!
  • paspartu
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    "I have not been happy with the way Arsenal are moving..well stagnating."

    well, what about taking your 5 pound and 60 pence and buy arsenal shares and then you can express your disatisfaction at the way the company is moving.....just saying. :P :P :P :P
  • Desmond S
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    @paspartu - investing in arsenal shares would be a good idea because they do run a good business model. I do not think expressing my views at an arsenal meeting would help as we all know Wenger has his masterplan in place and no one can change that. Would love to see you post an article with your views.
  • Desmond S
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    @Waterboy - I think what ML was trying to say was that if Arsenal lack ambition, they could have just used Afobe, Park, etc instead of buying new players this season.
  • Desmond S
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    @MeanLean - No problem mate. I was a bit disillusioned at the time too. With arsenal being linked to Carzola, Diaby coming back from injury, and Wenger recently stating that he is looking to sign more players things are starting to look up.
  • MeanLean
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    @Waterboy,

    Yeah sorry, I should have been more clear. As Desmond says, I was trying to say that if the club were not ambitious then we could have just used Afobe etc as the reasons for not signing more strikers.

    @Desmond S,

    I think many of us were angry and disillusioned at the time of the statement. But actually if things continue to go how they are then we could actually be a better side than last year even with losing the best striker in the PL.

    It is a crazy game I say. Addictive one at that.
  • craig
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    Desmond, respect for ur "old" article. Please don't encourage paspartu- i-one wants to see an article from him. ML pleasr respond to the question about Park etc deserving their chance. It would be interesting to read ur viewd on use of such players and how in your opinion would translate into results, effect on our league position and other players who may consider themselves to be better. Would the use of players like Park lead to more RVPsstyle situations?
  • craig
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    Sorry for the typos-sent from my phone.
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